[comp.os.cpm] NEC-APC

agv@j.cc.purdue.edu.UUCP (12/04/87)

I am posting this for a friend who owns a NEC-APC running
CPM-86 and who would like some tips in obtaining software:

1) Can a version of BASIC still be obtained for this beast?

2) Does anyone have some advice in getting a version of
   kermit from columbia for it? I've loaded kermit from
   there before so I'm familiar with the rudimentary
   procedures. Details and experiences with the APC
   or CPM-86 are appreciated, however.

3) Can anyone recommend a list of useful directories for
   the APC from simtel20? The <CPM.CPM86> directory looks
   like the place to start. Where to from here?

4) Finally, some information about the disk (8 inch)
   formats would be appreciated. From the documentation,
   there appears to be a single-sided single-density
   format (how many tracks and how many bytes per sector?)
   and a double-sided double-density format (again,
   what is the sector size and number of tracks?).

I intend to ftp software from simtel20 and cu20b.columbia
to our VAXen, then download to my own NEC-PC8801 to
store on 8 inch disks (if my format is compatible with the
APC). 

E-mail is the preferred medium for those wishing to respond.
Many thanks in advance to those who do.

ARPA: agv@s.cc.purdue.edu
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berger@clio.UUCP (12/06/87)

I can help with Kermit and the disk formats.  The NEC APC is an orphan
machine now, but way ahead of its time.  It's a shame to handicap it by
running CP/M-86 instead of MS-DOS.  NEC Information Systems still
offers support, software upgrades, and maintenance.

For the record, the NEC APC came out in 1983.  List price was slightly 
higher than a "similarly" equipped PC system, but discounts were
readily available.  In 1984, $ 3200 bought:

NEC APC, 8086 processor, 256K ram
640*512 graphics in 8 colors with monitor (VERY sharp - people still
are amazed when they discover the display is COLOR).  Two display
processors, one for text, one for graphics with hardware line and
circle drawing.  Special hardware for custom character sets.
Two 8" DSDD floppy disk drives (1.25 megabytes each), and the APC
printer.
Parallel and Serial ports are standard, 102 key keyboard.  22
Programmable function keys.
NEC 8023 graphics printer.

I've since added a math co-processor, and 640 K of RAM.

Standard (included free!) documentation included complete machine-
readable source listings of the BIOS and proprietary system utilities,
a System Reference Guide (including full technical details and
schematics), the MS-DOS Technical Reference Manual (far more
complete than the expensive IBM version, which wasn't even available
until 2 years later), MS-DOS user's guide, and bundled software
(WordStar, Multiplan, and DBASE II in my case).

I've never had a single maintenance problem since I've owned the
machine.

Now, can somebody explain how IBM sets the standards?!