[comp.os.cpm] Looking for disk formats

bird@kksys.UUCP (0000-Mike Bird) (12/10/87)

I have an NEC PC8801-A, and I belong to the Turbo User's Group.  They (and
Borland) do not support my machine's disk format.  So what I've been doing
is buying software in the Osborne format, and having a friend of mine, who
owns Unidos, convert to my format.  Recently, TUG dropped the Osborne
format, so now I'm ordering in the Kaypro format.  I did get a utility with
my machine that lets me re-configure my drives to anything that CP/M can be
configured for without special hardware.  This means that if I can get the
SPT, BSH, etc. and the 1st sector ID, Density, etc. for the Osborne and the
Kaypro, then I don't have to wait for a couple of months when my friend's
machine isn't busy on a day that I have free.  If anyone knows what the
formats are, or if there's a product for CP/M machines like Unidos, please
e-mail the information to me.  Thanks.
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dbraun@cadev4.intel.com (Doug Braun ~) (12/11/87)

I am also wondering about disk formats.  I would
like to convert my homebrew system from 8" SSSD
to a 5.25" format.  Which format should I use?
Has anyone ever compiled a list of formats?

I assume a format description would include the following:

Recording format:  IBM (SD or DD) or Apple.
	This would also include definitions of gaps, CRCs,
	address marks, etc.  These are the truly controller-
	dependent characteristics.  

Number of sides and tracks:
	These are drive-dependent characteristics.

Sector size and sectors/track:
	Controllers can almose always be programmed for this.

CP/M filesystem parameters:
	Physical sectors/sector, allocation group size,
	directory size, and the other Disk Parameter Block junk.
	Strictly software-dependent.

Has anyone ever seen a list.






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berger@clio.las.uiuc.edu (12/13/87)

The closest I've seen is the list of disk formats packed with
Uniform, a program and device driver by Micro Solutions in 
DeKalb, Il.  Uniform, available for several computers, including
the IBM-PC and Kaypro, reads and writes over 150 different disk
formats from your host machine.

			Mike Berger
			Center for Advanced Study
			University of Illinois 

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bird@kksys.UUCP (0000-Mike Bird) (12/14/87)

In article <1458@mipos3.intel.com> dbraun@cadev4.UUCP (Doug Braun ~) writes:
>I am also wondering about disk formats.  
> ...
>Has anyone ever compiled a list of formats?

Since I was the original person who brought this topic up, I think I
should pass this along:

Keith Peterson at SIMTEL20 sent a copy of their FLOPPY.FMT file which
contains the information I was seeking.  I suggest you try that
source.
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abp@j.cc.purdue.edu (Jeffrey J Wieland) (12/16/87)

There three programs that I am aware of:

Uniform from MicroSolutions
Media Master (I can't remember the manufacturer, but it's one I have for
my Kaypro)
Compat from Mycroft Labs

Uniform is probably your best bet.  They seem to have versions for all
sorts of machines.

			Jeff Wieland
			abp@j.cc.purdue.edu