[comp.os.cpm] DateStamper

mknox@EMX.UTEXAS.EDU (Margaret H. Knox) (02/04/88)

At *LONG* last I finally got around to ordering PluPerfects DateStamper
package.  Overall impression -- Money VERY well spent!  The did a good
job, and for the price, a very good value.

It took some time to go through and verify that none of the addresses
used in the BDOS by DateStamper were in conflict with the numerous
patches I have made myself (I could have used the "non-standard BDOS"
version, but I hate to waste memory).  It would have been nice if they
had provided a list of address they alter.

They reference a number of PD routines they have modified to work with
DateStamper (MCAT, XCAT, APPEND, TOUCH, MAKE, EX14A, etc.) and say they
are "available on various bulletin boards."  Anyone know if any of these
routines ever made it into the SIMTEL20 archives.?  Sure wish I had
source code (sigh!). 

Only a satisfied customer....

bridger%rcc@RAND-UNIX.ARPA (Bridger Mitchell) (02/05/88)

Thanks for the kind words about DateStamper, Margaret.

>> It took some time to go through and verify that none of the addresses
>> used in the BDOS by DateStamper were in conflict with the numerous
>> patches I have made myself (I could have used the "non-standard BDOS"
>> version, but I hate to waste memory).  It would have been nice if they
>> had provided a list of address they alter.

DateStamper's several internal patches into the standard DRI CP/M 2.2
BDOS require that the BDOS file functions operate exactly as in DRI's
released version, and be located exactly at those addresses.
DateStamper also patches the BDOS exit routine.  The exact patches
have evolved through several versions, and it wasn't possible to
get them into the printed manual.

The "long" or "non-standard BDOS" version of DateStamper patches only
the entry to the BDOS.  It has proved compatible with quite a variety
of CP/M 2 emulators  -- ZRDOS, P2DOS, Z80DOS, Apple, ...-- but
requires about another 0.25K. 

>> They reference a number of PD routines they have modified to work with
>> DateStamper (MCAT, XCAT, APPEND, TOUCH, MAKE, EX14A, etc.) and say they
>> are "available on various bulletin boards."  Anyone know if any of these
>> routines ever made it into the SIMTEL20 archives.?  Sure wish I had
>> source code (sigh!). 

An increasing number of public-domain utilities are supporting
DateStamping, particularly for file copying, directory listing, and
disk cataloging.  The ones you list are available on the DateStamper
Toolkit disk from Plu*Perfect Systems.  More recent ones include:

  CR23D and UNCR23D -- crunch/uncrunch
  PPIP -- file copy
  SAVSTAMP -- save create datestamp when editing,...
  ZFILER -- file utility

Jay Sage's RCPM (617-965-7259) has a number of these.

EX14a fixes EX14 (in-memory batch command processor), which wouldn't
run with any sort of RSX.

As a side note, DosDisk, which has just started shipping, provides
datestamping for files on MS-DOS disks when run on a
DateStamper-equipped system.  The distribution disk includes upgraded
directory (SDD) and file maintenance (DATSWEEP) utilities that
display/use/manipulate the MS-DOS datestamps.

Finally, you'd asked earlier about QP/M.  It's a (Z80) CP/M 2.2 BDOS
emulator by MicroCODE Consulting that has been used principally, I
believe, on Kaypros and Zerox 820-I upgrades.

--bridger

abp@j.cc.purdue.edu (Jeffrey J Wieland) (02/05/88)

In article <8802041714.AA01070@newton.arpa> bridger%rcc@RAND-UNIX.ARPA (Bridger Mitchell) writes:
>Thanks for the kind words about DateStamper, Margaret.

I've been using DateStamper since October; I used it with WordStar 4.0,
Eco-C80, and the Make utility supplied in the tool kit to develop a
~3500 compiler for a course in compilers and operating systems that
I took.  DateStamper made keeping the numerous source files up-to-date
easy.  DatSweep made incremental backups possible (I use a 1M Advent
RAM Disk; it sure beats copying ALL the sources just to make sure that
everything is safely on a floppy).

>As a side note, DosDisk, which has just started shipping, provides
>datestamping for files on MS-DOS disks when run on a
>DateStamper-equipped system.  The distribution disk includes upgraded
>directory (SDD) and file maintenance (DATSWEEP) utilities that
>display/use/manipulate the MS-DOS datestamps.

I've been using DosDisk since December (it came with my upgrade for the
MultiCopy program for CP/M Kaypros).  I take disks back-and-forth from
work regularly, and I have only had a problem with one disk: a demo-disk
for CompuView's VEDIT PLUS.  None of our machines at work could read it,
either.  I was able to access it with Media Master on my Kaypro.

I've also been using the public domain demo for BackGrounder II.  Did you
know that there is a way to log to another disk while running BGII?  It
involves DatSweep (doesn't work with NewSweep, so it must be something
peculiar to DatSweep).  Maybe if I get a full-time job, I'll spring for
the complete version.

				Jeff Wieland
				abp@j.cc.purdue.edu