[comp.os.cpm] JRT Pascal doc wanted

csfst1@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Charles S. Fuller) (02/05/90)

A few years ago, my Kaypro and all that went with it was caught in a
flood.  I've managed to salvage most of it, including a JRT Pascal
version 3.0 compiler.  The documentation, however, was another story.

If anyone has the original loose-leaf docs and wouldn't mind sharing,
I'd gladly pay any repro & mailing costs.

General question for discussion: I seem to recall being invited to
Chapter 11 proceedings shortly after receiving my copy of JRT Pascal.
As I recall, JRT had a unique distribution policy that allowed free
copies to be made of his work, including JRT Pascal, which only cost
$39.  Is JRT still in business?  If so, does anyone have an address?

Thanks in advance.
Chuck Fuller

SAGE@LL.LL.MIT.EDU (02/06/90)

Chuck Fuller asked:

>> If anyone has the original loose-leaf docs and wouldn't mind sharing,
>> I'd gladly pay any repro & mailing costs.

   I have not looked in a long time, but I am pretty sure that I have
a copy of the JRT Pascal manual sitting in my archives in the basement.
I know that I gave away one copy, but I think I had two.  You can also
get them in file form, probably from SIMTEL20.

   One other comment I would make is that I got very badly burned from
bugs in JRT on a very important project.  Turbo Pascal is far superior
in my opinion, and it is available again at $60, complete with an
improved looseleaf manual.  If you are not all that serious about
Pascal and are working on a tight budget, then JRT might be the way to
go.  Otherwise, I would recommend switching to Turbo.

>> General question for discussion: I seem to recall being invited to
>> Chapter 11 proceedings shortly after receiving my copy of JRT Pascal.

   JRT really did go out of business.  Tyson tried again under the name
Mystic Valley Pascal (I believe), but as far as I knew he never really
delivered on that product.  There were early versions, but they never
worked well and never provided the features he claimed in his ads.  Once
I learned that JRT was behind Mystic, I stayed away from it.

   When the first ads appeared for Turbo Pascal at an absurdly low price,
I was quite sceptical but decided to take a chance.  I never regretted that
decision, and have been very happy with Borland products (for the most part)
ever since.  Turbo Pascal was a top quality product at rock bottom price,
and that is probably why Borland is what it is today (and, conversely, why
JRT is what it is today).

   I believe that you will find both the code and the manuals for JRT in
the archives on SIMTEL20.  Years ago you would have found it on CP/M remote
systems, but I doubt that any of us would waste the disk space on it today.

-- Jay Sage

SLSW2@cc.usu.edu (Roger Ivie) (02/06/90)

In article <22090@unix.cis.pitt.edu>, csfst1@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Charles S. Fuller) writes:
> General question for discussion: I seem to recall being invited to
> Chapter 11 proceedings shortly after receiving my copy of JRT Pascal.
> As I recall, JRT had a unique distribution policy that allowed free
> copies to be made of his work, including JRT Pascal, which only cost
> $39.  Is JRT still in business?  If so, does anyone have an address?

They've recently started advertising again in various PC rags, although
which ones escape me at the moment. When I saw the ad I had this vague
feeling of Deja Vu. I pulled out an antique MicroSystems, and sure enough
it's the SAME AD!! They only changed a few words (inserted C in place
of PL/M, for instance).

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