[net.music] Jazz snobery

rlr@pyuxn.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (09/20/83)

"Now mind you, I'm not saying that jazz is better than rock or anything
like that.  I know that there are very serious rock musicians out there.
Why, some of my best friends ..."

1)  Rock is not as "mature" as jazz itself), rock 'n' roll was born in rebellion to the
	status quo.  Rock has been around through the late fifties, sixties,
	and seventies (if anything that was produced in the early seventies
	could be called "music", let alone "rock" :-) ).  Although its time is
	up, ghoulish music "industry" executives who don't know how to hawk
	anything else but rock seek to keep it on as "popular music" for
	another generation.  Some of today's youth are zombified enough to
	believe and accept that.  Hopefully, most are not.  Hopefully, rock
	will "live on" just as big band music has lived on, while new musics
	have their day in the sun.

2) Rock is "limiting" to serious musicians only if they choose to make it
	so.  If they choose to believe media imagery of what rock music is
	supposed to be, and avoid the genre (based on this evaluation), then
	of course they will either dissociate themselves from rock or play
	what they're told to play.  If they don't accept the notion that
	rock is synonymous with non-creative garbage, then they can choose
	to be *creative rock musicians*.  (Imagine that!!!)  It's ironic that
	the rock elite sees the genre as being limited to rectal orifices in
	silver jumpsuits and leather gear screeching and posing while the
	guitarist engages in simulated masturbation, yet when someone new and
	innovative comes along with something completely different, they're
	quick to take it to their bosom and call it 'rock'.  It's also ironic
	that so many people see jazz as THE alternative to "the mundaneness
	and childishness of rock", when there are (1) rock musicians who work
	within the genre to overcome those obstacles, and (2) non-jazz, non-
	rock alternatives such as Fred Frith, Tuxedomoon, the Residents, Eno,
	and other that have been mentioned.  This is what we call a "vicious
	cycle".  With these kinds of obstacles, it's a wonder that there's any
	progress in rock music, or that there's any real alternative music out
	there.  I'm not putting down jazz, but it's symptomatic of our era
	to look for solutions in the past (nostalgia?) rather than taking the
	time to think up new ideas for the future.

davidl@tekid.UUCP (David Levadie) (09/20/83)

Q: How many Jazz critics does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: Three - One to screw it in, and two to complain that it's electric.