zlraa@iceman.jcu.oz (Ross Alford) (10/28/90)
In article <9010251333.aa14543@crdec8.apgea.army.mil> mdgoodma@CRDEC8.APGEA.ARMY.MIL (Mack Goodman) writes: >Ross Alford wrote recently about how this site (128.109.153.4) >had CP/M software. I am greatful for that but I cannot seem >to retrieve any of it. Could someone, who has done it, explain to >me how to FTP to this site. Anonymous doesn't let me log in. > >Any help? > >Mack Goodman I apologise for any problems this may have caused. I have downloaded several files from this site, which appears to be a VAX at North Carolina STtate University. I have always used this technique: Step 0: CHANGE YOUR PASSWORD ON YOUR HOME SYSTEM!!! This is important as you'll see in a moment. Step 1: Use telnet to connect to 128.109.153.4, ccvax1.cc.ncsu.edu Step 2: When the site asks for your user id, tell it PUBLIC Step 3: The site will scroll an opening screen at you. Press Q at its end Step 4: Tell it yes or no for terminal type=vt100 Step 5: Tell it S for Software (The News is all local) Step 6: Enter VOL. The system lists categories, allows you to select one Step 7: (less detail) Work out what you want. Get into it's volume Step 8: Tell the system you want to GET Step 9: Tell the system the name of the file Step 10: Tell it you want to get it using F for FTP Step 11: Tell it your node address, either as numeric ID or name, for example, marlin.jcu.edu.au Step 12: Tell it your userid, or if your machine allows uploads via anonymous FTP, maybe you could tell it anonymous. I dont't know, since mine doesn't. NOTE that userids with lowercase characters eg. UN*X ids, must be enclosed in " marks. Step 13: This is the reason for changing your password to something before you start--tell it your password, enclosed in " if it contains significant lowercase. Again, if your machine allows anonymous uploads, you might be able to get away with telling it something that your machine would accept as a password from an anonymous FTP uploader. I don't know. Step 14: Tell it the path for the directory to upload to, or press return to have it upload into the directory it will be logged into when it logs on (your home directory if you've given it your own id). Step 15: The NCSU machine will connect to your home machine via ftp, using the id and password and path you have provided. It will upload the file you've selected. I've obtained both text and binary files this way, and neither sort gets mangled. Step 16: After it has uploaded the file to your machine, it will return control to you. You can continue doing whatever. Step 17: You work out how to log off. Step 18: CHANGE YOUR PASSWORD BACK TO NORMAL IMMEDIATELY, if you have had the ncsu machine log on as anything other than anonymous. Complex? You bet. It does work, though, and there is a very good selection of software available, including lots of IBMPC, Mac, CP/M, Tandy 100/102. In my original posting I suggested that it should be possible to FTP directly from 128.109.153.4. When I said that, I was relying on some information that had appeared in comp.sys.tandy re the NCSU site. That poster suggested that you should FTP to the site, then give FTP the userid PUBLIC. I hadn't tried this then. I have now, and it doesn't seem to work. The above method does, and shouldn't be too dangerous if you change your password immediately before and after allowing the ncsu machine to send you files. Ross Alford zlraa@marlin.jcu.edu.au