[comp.os.cpm] VT100KAY.LBR problems

cwcst1@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Carol Coates) (03/16/91)

	Greetings. I downloaded a _lot_ of stuff from the CP/M part
	of Simtel and all the files worked perfectly - except the file
	I really wanted :-)

	The file is called VT100KAY.LBR and I can't get it to work.
	The library contains a VT100 emulator for the Kaypro series.
	When I exctract all the sub-files, I get this:

	VT100KAY.BUG	- a listing of current bugs.
	VT1200.COM	- an assembled version to run at 1200 baud
	VT2400.COM	- an assembled version to run at 2400 baud
	VT100KAY.DOC	- documentation
	VT100KAY.AZM	- this is the source AND THE PROBLEM!

	NOW, I can use ZFILER or LT or VLU104 and display the contents
	of the above file but I can NOT get the darn thing to create
	a ASM file. No matter what I try.... arghhhh! VLU gives me
	"invalid format", ZFILER appears to do the job but does not,
	and LT just shows me the contents - no matter what I tell it!
	(LT A8:VT100KAY.AZM A8:	is supposed to extract the file - and
	this method works on other files - but on this particular file,
	it just displays the listing)

	help... help... am I doing something very stupid or is the
	file not in the correct format? 

	Take care.

	P.S. I would appreciate just a "fix" - my mailbox is small and
	my sysop is not very happy when it overflows... :-(

cwcst1@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Carol Coates) (03/16/91)

	Greetings. I must have taken a mouthfull of that stupidity-potion.
	That file, VT100KAY.AZM, is *ALREADY* uncompressed! Sorry about
	that last post, folks. 

	It hit me, after I had a snack... lack of calories, I guess ;-)

	Take care.

ankh@diku.dk (Klaus Ambrass) (03/18/91)

cwcst1@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Carol Coates) writes:


>	Greetings. I must have taken a mouthfull of that stupidity-potion.
>	That file, VT100KAY.AZM, is *ALREADY* uncompressed! Sorry about
>	that last post, folks. 

Well, I had that prob myself once.
Way back then, it was due to the packing format applied by who ever packed
the file in the first place.
	I have an Amstrad cpc6128 and found that sometimes, when you CRUNCH a
file you can UNCR it, but not UNCRLZH it. I know it sounds loony, but the
two programs are in fact different.
	Maybe you have them same prob here. I dunno.
	You might try to TYPE the file and look at the displayed content. If
you get something containing a string of text that looks like a filename within
the 100 bytes or so, it probably IS still packed - one way or the other.
	Perhaps your file is simply renamed? (probably tried that already, but
don't blame me for telling you the obvious though :-))
	Oh, another stupid thing I got worked out only last month is that
SOME people (Amsters) really use the PC's LHARC packing format to crunch the
files they want packed. I found that a small tool - LHRD - can extract files
from PC's *.LZH to CP/M standard files.
	If you still have a troublesome file then Kill The Bastard!

>	It hit me, after I had a snack... lack of calories, I guess ;-)

We'll come back to that later.

>	Take care.

Now, make up your mind!

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ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman) (03/18/91)

ankh@diku.dk (Klaus Ambrass) writes:

> cwcst1@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Carol Coates) writes:
> 
> 
> >	Greetings. I must have taken a mouthfull of that stupidity-potion.
> >	That file, VT100KAY.AZM, is *ALREADY* uncompressed! Sorry about
> >	that last post, folks. 
> 
> Well, I had that prob myself once.
> Way back then, it was due to the packing format applied by who ever packed
> the file in the first place.
> 	I have an Amstrad cpc6128 and found that sometimes, when you CRUNCH a
> file you can UNCR it, but not UNCRLZH it. I know it sounds loony, but the
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^ FALSE, FALSE, FALSE!!!!!!
> two programs are in fact different.


(flamethrower on maximum and enjoying it!!!!)


YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY DEAD WRONG!!!!!!


I USE UCRLZH.COM TO UNCRUNCH ?Z? FILES ALL THE TIME!!!!!!

(flamethrower brought down to minimum)

IF YOU WANT TO MAKE ME EAT MY WORDS, TRY IT!!!  I know I'm right
about this one.  I know because I've used it. Have YOU tried it?
UCRLZH11.COM _WILL_ uncrunch ?Q?, ?Z?, and ?Y? files.  What you
just said is one of the biggest crocks I've ever seen!

(flamethrower off)

Sorry about that.  I had to get you with this one with the
fullest possible permissible setting on my flamethrower without
cussing (if it WAS permitted, I would have said and/or called you
some real doozies).  Mainly because I use the program ALL THE
TIME and I _KNOW_ what it can do.

Antony_Warbrooke@kcbbs.gen.nz (Antony Warbrooke) (03/20/91)

How would I get a copy of the library VT100KAY.LBR ???
As I come from New Zealand I don't really want to make any large Toll 
Calls to the States and was wondering if anyone knew of any place in 
N.Z. that would have a copy of this file???
 
Any help would be most appreciated!!!
Thanks in advance!