[comp.sys.m6809] os9 l2 as terminal

ac@utgpu.UUCP (05/22/87)

   The last few days I have been trying to use my COCO3 with OS9 level II as
a terminal.  I have a couple of questions as a result:

1) Has anyone done a TERMCAP for the level II windows?

2) Has anyone done a MAP3270 (for tn3270) for the above?

3) It was reported once that erase to end of screen on the second to last line
   of an 80 x 24 window failed to clear the last line.  Was this ever confirmed?
   Has a bypass been found?

4) It was reported once that snow appears on the screen when large amounts of
   system calls are being executed.  In particular terminal program that 
   constantly check for characters with a getstat call cause problems.  I can
   certain attest to this!   I found that adjusting the foreground and
   background colors helps a bit but it's still not great.  Anyone heard any
   more about this problem?

5) What is available in the line of public domain terminal programs especially
   ones which support "standard" terminal types and offer Xmodem and Kermit 
   support?  Also, what about non-public domain programs?

6) I downloaded Kermit from Columbia some time ago.  It works OK but occasionaly
   it crashes my system or causes it to spontaneously reboot.  Anyone had this
   problem?


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Name:     Mark Acfield (University of Toronto Computing Services)
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jimomura@lsuc.UUCP (05/24/87)

     Mark, could you 'mail' me a Uuencoded or S-Record version of the
Kermit object file?  I haven't been able to use my compiler lately
(I don't have a /d1 and I need to patch it to look for /dd) and my
only object file for Kermit doesn't seem to crossload at all.

     As for the snow, I hear that replacing the CPU with a Hitachi
H68C09E gets rid of it.  I haven't tried it myself yet, but I intend to
do so.

     By the way, I see that the new DeskMate 3 is available now.  Has
anybody tried it yet?  I haven't.

     I did buy a Sony Betamax outfit lately.  I tried recording a session
of Koronis Rift with it and I'm a bit disappointed with the results.  The
color is excellent, and the picture is sharp.  The sound seems to reproduce.
The problem is that there seems to be some kind of timing problem.  I
get a horizontal bar slowly ascending the screen on a regular interval.

     I've been planning to get a digitizing board for the CoCo3.  I'm
wondering now if it's going to work out.  Has anybody done much of this
going back and forth from computer to video tape and from video camera
to computer stuff?

Cheers! -- Jim O.
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pete@wlbr.UUCP (05/27/87)

In article <1987May22.125611.16647@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> ac@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu (Mark Acfield) writes:
>
>
>   The last few days I have been trying to use my COCO3 with OS9 level II as
>a terminal.  I have a couple of questions as a result:
>
>1) Has anyone done a TERMCAP for the level II windows?

Mark Sunderlin (also on the net at ..!ihnp4!chinet!megabyte, I
believe) had some termcap stuff for wordpak I ande II. Variations
on these should work fine.

>
>2) Has anyone done a MAP3270 (for tn3270) for the above?

I haven't heard of one.

>3) It was reported once that erase to end of screen on the second to last line
>   of an 80 x 24 window failed to clear the last line.  Was this ever confirmed?
>   Has a bypass been found?

I believe some of the OS9 Forum hackers are working on this as well.
No resolution to date.

>
>4) It was reported once that snow appears on the screen when large amounts of
>   system calls are being executed.  In particular terminal program that 
>   constantly check for characters with a getstat call cause problems.  I can
>   certain attest to this!   I found that adjusting the foreground and
>   background colors helps a bit but it's still not great.  Anyone heard any
>   more about this problem?

Some folks have said that a 3 Mhz Hitachi version of the 6809 (called
a 6309??) is the cure. My sources (Kevin Darling, for one) have said
'nyet'. I have it on *good* authority that Tandy is designing a GIME2
chip as a fix, but release date and availability are still in the
'vapor' category. I too am afflicted by a *bad* case of the snow. I
have shut down the coco3 as a consequence. I may turn it back on if
they ever fix it. Meantime, I use a Gimix for all LII stuff, and a few
LI systems tied to it.

>
>5) What is available in the line of public domain terminal programs especially
>   ones which support "standard" terminal types and offer Xmodem and Kermit 
>   support?  Also, what about non-public domain programs?

LOTS. The OS9 Forum has Xcom9, a PD program written all in asm that
supports ascii & xmodem xfers. It is fast, tight, and small. The
sources are huge & complex to assemble. Best bet is to get a canned
pre-assembled version. They/we also have SMOD8 - a package written in
C that supports ascii and Compuserve's proprietary 'B' protocol (which
is *much* faster for upload/download via Tymnet/Telenet than Xmodem).
There are also BASIC09 packages called Hi-Term, Bi-term, and a few
others. All work apparently well. (Credits: Xcom9 - Greg Morse (and to
some degree, me); SMOD8 - Carl Kreider; Hi/Bi-term's - Bill Brady).

>6) I downloaded Kermit from Columbia some time ago.  It works OK but occasionaly
>   it crashes my system or causes it to spontaneously reboot.  Anyone had this
>   problem?
>

Kermit. I have been using the UG version of KERMIT 1.6 for over a year
with both level I and II os9/6809. While it's not airtight, it's not a
system smasher by any means. In fact, it is the program that runs when
my unix system logs in to my os9 system (instead of SHELL in the
password file). I do automatic, unattended transfers every night with
it. There is also a version 1.7 lurking about - Bob Larson, John
Covicci are a few of the contributors to that, although I am uncertain
as to its stability under os9/6809. That's being looked into right
now.

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