Mike_W_Ryan@cup.portal.com (12/27/87)
Now, now lets not be too harsh on HP. It's not all bad. I have found that a great place to find third party languages and tools is the magezine "Interact" which is the INTEREX users group puplication. You should be getting it as well as the SSB's, Responce Center Q & A's, and Application notes, if you have software support. Some tools are quite good and cut development time down drastically, though some of them tend to be CPU hogs as a result (can't have everything). Mike Ryan HP Burlington
jja@tut.fi (Ahola Jari) (12/29/87)
In article <2172@cup.portal.com>, Mike_W_Ryan@cup.portal.com writes: > Now, now lets not be too harsh on HP. It's not all bad. I have found that + ^^ + I don't have anything against HP, but + MPE V .... > a great place to find third party languages and tools is the magezine > "Interact" which is the INTEREX users group puplication. You should > be getting it as well as the SSB's, Responce Center Q & A's, and Application > notes, if you have software support. + Yes we have sw support, but I haven't seen anything of those things above. > > Some tools are quite good and cut development time down drastically, though > some of them tend to be CPU hogs as a result (can't have everything). > > > Mike Ryan > HP Burlington + Is that INTEREX smthng HP supported ? + How to contact/get closer information ? jja Tampere University of Technology Finland
Mike_W_Ryan@cup.portal.com (01/02/88)
The INTERACT magezine, as noted, is a publication of the INTEREX users group. I was under the assumtion that any account with primary software support (even Responce Center Support) get the SSB, magezine, etc.). When I get back to the office on Monday, I will look into it for you and advise. It may be that SOMEONE in your office gets this stuff, butit misses you somehow. Usually, the one who gets the stuff is the one listed as the system manager or primary contact for PICS calls at the Responce Center. As far as support goes, the mazezine is supplied as a service, and is not supported by HP , nor are any articles written therein supported. It is a USERs GROUP puplication. You will find many other vendors listed, and some articles have been sharply critical of HP, but personally I find it a fine publicaion. The RC Q & A's, the SSB's, and Application notes however, ARE official MPE documents and ARE supported. Look for the documents at your office, and I will check into the mechanism by which you should be getting them for you. Mike_W_Ryan HP Burlington
dbercel@toto.uucp (Danielle Bercel, Systems Programming) (01/05/88)
In article <2244@cup.portal.com> Mike_W_Ryan@cup.portal.com writes: >The INTERACT magezine, as noted, is a publication of the INTEREX users group. >I was under the assumtion that any account with primary software support >(even Responce Center Support) get the SSB, magezine, etc.). I'm a regular INTERACT contributor and write a monthly column for INTERACT (The Lighter Side). I have also been the DP Manager in a number of HP shops and the magazine does not come with HP software support. You can get the magazine in one of two ways. First, you can join INTEREX and become an installation (or individual) member and get the magazine as part of your membership. Or, you can subscribe to INTERACT just like you would subscribe to any magazine. INTEREX (and hence INTERACT and TC INTERFACE) are an independent organization and not part of HP. Hope this helps clear up any confussion. Catch my column if you can find a copy of INTERACT. The Lighter Side began with the December '87 issue and should be in all the 1988 issues. danielle -- *********************** UUCP: {hplabs,decwrl}!sun!toto!{danielle,dbercel} * Toto, I don't think * ARPA: dbercel@sun.arpa * this is Kansas. * COM: dbercel%toto@sun *********************** USMail:2550 Garcia Ave., M3-76, Mtn. View, CA. 94042
webster@dalcs.UUCP (Christopher Webster) (01/06/88)
We'd been Interex members for several years, receiving the Interact magazine
(and Interrupt bulletins) before realizing there are other HP3000 rags about.
A seperate user group SuperGroup exists with its own magazine of the same name.
I've never thought it was a good as Interact.
Unfortunately both these magazines stay on HP's side of things. What you should
order is a subscription to The HP Chronicle. This is a newspaper tabloid
also independent of HP that seems quicker to criticize HP than the other
two. Their articles can be a refreshing change from some of Interact's glitz.
Find the Chronicle through Wilson Publications in Cedar Park, TX.
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INTERNET webster%dalcs@uunet.UU.NETsfr@praxis.co.uk (Stephen Rickaby) (01/06/88)
In article <2258@korppi.tut.fi> jja@tut.fi (Ahola Jari) writes: >+ Is that INTEREX something HP supported ? >+ How to contact/get closer information ? > INTEREX is the International Association of Hewlett Packard Computer Users. It is independent of, but supported by, Hewlett Packard itself, (in marked contrast I believe to DECUS, the Digital Equipment equivalent). It supports both 3000 and 1000 series users, and to some extent (growing), 9000 series users. INTEREX publishes a newsletter, technical journals for the 3000 and the 1000 series machines, and supports a contributed software library. My experience has been with the 1000, and at the time I was last in contact the CSL was rapidly increasing in quality and usefulness. The CSL software is not, of course, supported in the usual sense. INTEREX membership is, to a system programmer or manager, good value for money. Cost to my previous employer for corporate membership was app. 350 UK pounds sterling per annum, which included an annual CSL library tape, 2-monthly TC Interface (the 1000-series journal), and all conference reports for the 1000 series. INTEREX are at 680 Almanor Avenue Sunnyvale, California CA 94086-3513 USA (408) 738-4848 but have offices in most countries. There are often national offshoots also. Hope this helps. Steve Rickaby | ,,, Praxis Systems plc | < O_O > 20 Manvers Street, Bath, BA1 1PX, UK | ==( . )== Tel: +44 225 444700 Tx: 445848 PRAXIS G | Prrrouwf, Wackwacka sfr%praxis.uuc@ukc.ac.uk | !mcvax!ukc!praxis!sfr | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- '1$x/\{{[^}]*}\}/\{<1\}/q/' ... do it in lower case, it's more polite.