[comp.sys.hp] comp.* is being censored to this site

rclark@bgphp1.UUCP (Roger N. Clark) (03/16/88)

After about 4 months on the net, it is quite obvious that the feed
of comp.* is being selectively edited: only articles that mention HP
are sent!

Now I understand that the HP offices are sending the net as a
convenience to their customers, but I would really like to see more.
Personally, I am not interested in everything, but just because HP
may not appear in the text, doesn't mean it is important to Unix
users or to HP customers in general.

I do not think the increased load would be that significant.  If you
are worried about phone bills, how about running compress first?  It
would save almost a factor of three in bytes sent.  Instead of executing
rnews with uuxqt, execute a shell script that does: compress -d | rnews

I would like to at least see ALL of:
comp.bugs.misc
comp.bugs.sys5
comp.graphics
comp.graphics.digest
comp.laser-printers
comp.mail.misc
comp.mail.uucp
comp.misc
comp.newprod
comp.os.eunice (we have eunice machines at our site)
comp.os.misc
comp.os.vms
comp.periphs
comp.sources.bugs
comp.sources.d
comp.sources.misc
comp.sources.unix
comp.sources.wanted
comp.std.c
comp.std.internat
comp.std.misc
comp.std.mumps
comp.std.unix
comp.sys.dec
comp.sys.sun
comp.sys.workstations
comp.terminals
comp.text
comp.text.desktop
comp.unix.questions
comp.unix.wizards
comp.windows.misc
comp.windows.news
comp.windows.x

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Roger N. Clark
{known-world}!hplabs!hpfcla!hpfcse!hpuecoa!bgphp1!rclark

rjn@hpfcmp.HP.COM (Bob Niland) (03/18/88)

re:  "...it is quite obvious that the feed of comp.* is being selectively
      edited:  only articles that mention HP are sent!"

I administer one of the machines in the path from factory to HP field
offices.  Historically, the philosophy about the feed has been that the
factory supplies to the field officess only that which they cannot get
elsewhere, principally hp-internal groups and hug.  Theoretically, the field
is supposed to get their generic usenet feed from a geographically local
source.  In turn, the field would provide to their customers only that which
the customers cannot obtain independently, namely hug.

The reason for this is that the field offices, for the most part, connect to
Fort Collins via 1200 baud modem, and there are a limited number of lines.
It would be impossible (and enormously expensive) to provide everything.  We
did add comp.sys.hp and comp.sys.handhelds recently.

On the bright side, the field interface system (hpfcse) has just installed a
9600 baud modem (which can also run at 19,200 with data compression), so we
may be able expand the notesfiles available.  It still makes more sense for
your local office (and for you) to obtain comp, sci, misc, rec, etc.  from a
local unversity.  Make sure you have at least 100Mbytes of incremental disc
space available before turing on the hose :-)

Bob Niland   ARPA:rjn%hpfcrjn@hplabs.HP.COM   UUCP:[ihnp4|hplabs]!hpfcla!rjn