danner@cs.cmu.edu (Daniel Stodolsky) (04/02/89)
Does anyone out there have a 24 bit X11 server for the 835's? Access to full color under would be very useful for some of our work. If not, does anyone have any expirence with interfacing starbase to X11R2, with R2 running in the overlay planes? Daniel Stodolsky Eng. Design Research Center danner@edrc.cmu.edu
harry@hpcvlx.HP.COM (Harry Phinney) (04/04/89)
> Does anyone out there have a 24 bit X11 server for the 835's? Access to full > color under would be very useful for some of our work. It sounds like you need the capability of the HP-UX 3.1 server. This server supports 24 bit visuals on both the SRX and TSRX displays. The TSRX server allows a "combined" mode, wherein a client "sees" a choice of two visuals - one which actually "resides" in the overlay planes and one associated with the image planes. The fact that the windows are in two different sets of planes is hidden from the application and the user. > If not, does anyone have any expirence with interfacing starbase to X11R2, with > R2 running in the overlay planes? > Daniel Stodolsky On both the SRX and TSRX servers available for HP-UX 3.0 there is a color "transparent" which allows an X client (with X running in the overlay planes) to create a "hole" into the image planes. You can have a program which creates such a window and then uses Starbase to render to the image planes. It is up to the application to track the movement of the window and set Starbase's P1 and P2 accordingly. As of the HP-UX 3.1 release a Starbase program can render directly into an X window, greatly simpifying the application. Harry Phinney
stroyan@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Mike Stroyan) (04/04/89)
> Does anyone out there have a 24 bit X11 server for the 835's? Access to full > color under X11 would be very useful for some of our work. > If not, does anyone have any experience with interfacing starbase to X11R2, > with R2 running in the overlay planes? The 3.1 release from HP has 24 bit X11 support. It also has new support for running full functionality Starbase inside an X11 window. The 3.1 release is now in the process of being distributed. I don't know how long it takes all of the customers on update services to get copies. Mike Stroyan, stroyan@hpfcla.hp.com
vic@zen.UUCP (Victor Gavin) (04/06/89)
In article <5570142@hpfcdc.HP.COM> stroyan@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Mike Stroyan) writes: >The 3.1 release from HP has 24 bit X11 support. It also has new support >for running full functionality Starbase inside an X11 window. The 3.1 >release is now in the process of being distributed. I don't know how long >it takes all of the customers on update services to get copies. > >Mike Stroyan, stroyan@hpfcla.hp.com I'm being very serious here, when I say that HP's European Distribution is in a mess. At our office we are running HP's X11, but only because we're on good terms with our AE who let us have a copy of his tape when we found we needed it. We still haven't received our update! This is also the only reason that we're running HP-UX 6.2 on our 300's. We still haven't received our update! Also we are currently in the process of getting HP-UX 3.1 for the 800's. This ``delivery'' has been going on since February. At this rate we won't get HP-UX 3.1 until about June. Also what about 24 bit support for the 300's ??? vic -- Victor Gavin Zengrange Limited vic@zen.co.uk Greenfield Road ..!mcvax!ukc!zen.co.uk!vic Leeds England +44 532 489048 LS9 8DB
arne@yc.estec.nl (Arne Lundberg) (04/06/89)
In article <5570142@hpfcdc.HP.COM> stroyan@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Mike Stroyan) writes: > The 3.1 > release is now in the process of being distributed. I don't know how long > it takes all of the customers on update services to get copies. I would guess that the distribution process is quite slow for HP. I am currently waiting for the complete distribution of 3.0. I have got piles of manuals, maybe 15 tapes but I am still missing some of the parts. Maybe only the HP-UX tape(s) but it is not easy to know. The history of this distribution and some other related stuff is quite long (and interesting :-( ) : Beginning of 88:We order a second LANIC board for the machine Oct 88: We order X11 for the 800 Oct 88: The Installing X On the Series 800 is printed Nov 88: The Release notes for 3.0 is printed 15-Feb 88: We get a letter saying that 3.0 will be to us shipped between 20/2 - 10/3 Mars 88: We get X11 for the 800, Can only be used with 3.0 Mars 88: The 3.0 distribution starts coming in. Currently we have got at least 25 boxes during the last 4 weeks. April 88: We get the LANIC board. New version, (can only run with 3.0?) Notice the long delays for X11 and the LANIC board which I believe is due to their dependency of 3.0 . I don't mind getting newer faster hardware or working software but I would think that SOME INFORMATION would not be TO MUCH to ask for during the waiting period. (We have asked HP in The Netherlands several times but have not got any sensible response). Why does it have to take so long time to get the software to Europe? Is it really necessary to split up a UNIX distribution into this many small pieces? I would prefer to get ONE BIG box with the required manuals and a MINIMUM number of tapes to load. Loading all these 15 tapes must take forever. -- Arne Lundberg, ESTEC/YCV, The Netherlands
burzio@mmlai.UUCP (Tony Burzio) (04/07/89)
In article <1017@esatst.yc.estec.nl>, arne@yc.estec.nl (Arne Lundberg) writes: > Why does it have to take so long time to get the software to Europe? Don't feel bad about being on the short end of HP software distribution, they mess it up here in the US too. In the last year, only one product has arrived in timely order, but it was just an auxiliary product and I had to wait for the correct HP-UX version to wander in before installing it. It's a good thing the stuff works when it finally DOES get here... :-) ********************************************************************* Tony Burzio * All together now, and a one and a two... Martin Marietta Labs * mmlai!burzio@uunet.uu.net * WE NEED DECNET AND LATSYM support! *********************************************************************