[comp.sys.hp] ditroff + LaserJet II - HELP

kjc@mva.cs.liv.ac.uk (04/05/89)

Intro:
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1. We have ditroff, eqn, tbl, pic etc from ATT on our HP workstations.
2. We have several HP LaserJet II printers (512Kb, no extra fonts - yet).

Problem:
--------
We would like to get output on our LaserJets that is similar to the output
we get from our PostScript Laser Writer ie Times Roman, Bold and Italic in
6,7,8 ... 24 point etc.

My Solution
-----------
1. Get some HP Soft Fonts (probably AD, AF and DA)
2. Get the appropriate printer manual and width tables for fonts etc.
2. Write a driver (and I'm sure this has all been done before!!)

Any Comments ???
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1. I'm abit worried about the fact that the soft fonts are for downloading
   from an MS-DOS machine. Presumably I can binary transfer them to the
   workstations and download them from there ?
2. How much memory do you lose in the printer with soft fonts resident ?
   We intend to increase the memory on the printers, but I'd like a feel
   of the memory requirements.

Thanks In Advance.

Kenny C.

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kg@elan.UUCP (Ken Greer) (04/06/89)

From article <3660@mva.cs.liv.ac.uk>, by kjc@mva.cs.liv.ac.uk:
> 1. We have ditroff, eqn, tbl, pic etc from ATT on our HP workstations.
> 2. We have several HP LaserJet II printers (512Kb, no extra fonts - yet).

Mistake #1: You purchased Troff from AT&T.  Sorry!

You'll need to purchase software support for the LaserJet from one
of the few troff vendors around.  HP is a very heavy user of EROFF
for their Troff-ing, which is available from:
                           Elan Computer Group, Inc.
                          888 Villa Street, 3rd Floor
                            Mountain View, CA 94041
                              Phone: 415-964-2200
                               FAX: 415-964-8588

> 1. I'm abit worried about the fact that the soft fonts are for downloading
>    from an MS-DOS machine. Presumably I can binary transfer them to the
>    workstations and download them from there ?

Yes, no problem. (EROFF automatically downloads, b.t.w.)

>    We intend to increase the memory on the printers, but I'd like a feel
>    of the memory requirements.

512 MB is adequate.  EROFF does some fancy font management so that
you don't need lots of memory.

mat@emcard.UUCP (W Mat Waites) (04/07/89)

In article <3660@mva.cs.liv.ac.uk> kjc@mva.cs.liv.ac.uk writes:
}Intro:
}------
}1. We have ditroff, eqn, tbl, pic etc from ATT on our HP workstations.
}2. We have several HP LaserJet II printers (512Kb, no extra fonts - yet).
}
}Problem:
}--------
}We would like to get output on our LaserJets that is similar to the output
}we get from our PostScript Laser Writer ie Times Roman, Bold and Italic in
}6,7,8 ... 24 point etc.
}
}My Solution
}-----------
}1. Get some HP Soft Fonts (probably AD, AF and DA)
}2. Get the appropriate printer manual and width tables for fonts etc.
}2. Write a driver (and I'm sure this has all been done before!!)
}
}Kenny C.
}
}*****************************************************************************
}* Kenneth Chan             * Phone: +44 51 794 3690                         *

We use Eroff, from Elan Software. You move the soft fonts over with
kermit or xmodem or something, and put them in particular directories.
Eroff takes care of downloading the fonts, etc. I find it easier to buy
than generate all of those width tables, etc myself.

Elan Computer Group
410 Cambridge Ave, Suite A
Palo Alto, CA
94306
(415) 322-2450

Good Luck,
Mat

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jim@hp-ptp.HP.COM (James_Rogers) (04/07/89)

>Intro:
>------
>1. We have ditroff, eqn, tbl, pic etc from ATT on our HP workstations.
>2. We have several HP LaserJet II printers (512Kb, no extra fonts - yet).
>
>Problem:
>--------
>We would like to get output on our LaserJets that is similar to the output
>we get from our PostScript Laser Writer ie Times Roman, Bold and Italic in
>6,7,8 ... 24 point etc.
>
>My Solution
>-----------
>1. Get some HP Soft Fonts (probably AD, AF and DA)
>2. Get the appropriate printer manual and width tables for fonts etc.
>2. Write a driver (and I'm sure this has all been done before!!)
>
>Any Comments ???
>----------------
>1. I'm abit worried about the fact that the soft fonts are for downloading
>   from an MS-DOS machine. Presumably I can binary transfer them to the
>   workstations and download them from there ?
>2. How much memory do you lose in the printer with soft fonts resident ?
>   We intend to increase the memory on the printers, but I'd like a feel
>   of the memory requirements.
>
>Thanks In Advance.
>

Alternative solution
--------------------
1. Get Eroff from Elan Computer Group, Inc.
   Eroff understands both Laserjet and Postscript printers.
   Eroff also has some extensions to ATT ditroff et al which will allow you
   to optimize the use of your printers.

2. Get soft fonts for the LaserjetII.  Yes, they do come in DOS format
   but the HP workstations have a utility called doscp which allows you
   to copy files to/from DOS format.  You will want to have a 5.25 inch
   drive attached to your workstation for best use of doscp.

   If you must do a binary transfer from a DOS machine then doscp will
   not be of much use to you.

3. The amount of memory used for font storage in the printer is a function
   of:
      A. The size of the font (larger point size fonts use more memory).

      B. The number of fonts downloaded.

   The laserjetII has a hard limit of 32 fonts which can be stored
   regardless of the memory installed.

   Eroff reserves 270000 bytes of printer memory as a default for font
   storage.  I recommend that you purchase at least another 2 meg of
   memory.  This will not only give adequate room for 32 fonts
   (in my machine 32 fonts take up about 1 meg of memory) but it will
   allow you to print full page bitmaps in your documents.
   The initial 512K of memory will only allow you to print about 0.5
   pages of bitmap.


Jim Rogers at Hewlett Packard in Sunnyvale, California