[comp.sys.hp] HP 7958S disk question

lnb@bnrunix.UUCP (Lynn Brackett) (08/04/89)

I have a HP 9000/360 workstation running HP-UX 6.5 with one 7958S disk.
I would like to partition the disk to contain two file systems.  Does
anyone know if this can be done on a 300 series workstation?  Any
information about how to partition my disk in this way is greatly
appreciated.
 
Thanks in advance for your help.
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rjn@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Bob Niland) (08/07/89)

re: "I have a HP 9000/360 workstation running HP-UX 6.5 with one 7958S disk.
     I would like to partition the disk to contain two file systems.  Does
     anyone know if this can be done on a 300 series workstation?"

It can't.  Series 300 HP-UX does not support disk "sections", aka "BSD
partitions", nor does the 7958S support hard volumes.   Series 800 HP-UX
does support sections.

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rclark@speclab.bgp-usgs.gov (Roger N. Clark) (08/10/89)

> It can't.  Series 300 HP-UX does not support disk "sections", aka "BSD
> partitions", nor does the 7958S support hard volumes.   Series 800 HP-UX
> does support sections.

I assume that will change with 7.0.  If 7.0 on 300 and 800 will be
identical, then either both 300 and 800 will have partitions, or
neither will.  I hope partitions aren't going away :-)

Roger Clark

rer@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Rob Robason) (08/17/89)

> I assume that will change with 7.0.  If 7.0 on 300 and 800 will be
> identical, then either both 300 and 800 will have partitions, or
> neither will.  I hope partitions aren't going away :-)

7.0 is planned to bring the 300 and 800 much closer together, but the
match is not absolute.  Sorry Roger, but you've struck on one of the few
exceptions:  Disk partitions on the 300 are not planned.  (If it's any
consolation, though, we're not taking them out of the 800.)

> Roger Clark

Rob Robason

irf@kuling.UUCP (Bo Thide') (08/18/89)

In article <5570268@hpfcdc.HP.COM> rer@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Rob Robason) writes:
>> I assume that will change with 7.0.  If 7.0 on 300 and 800 will be
>> identical, then either both 300 and 800 will have partitions, or
>> neither will.  I hope partitions aren't going away :-)
>
>7.0 is planned to bring the 300 and 800 much closer together, but the
>match is not absolute.  Sorry Roger, but you've struck on one of the few
>exceptions:  Disk partitions on the 300 are not planned.  (If it's any
>consolation, though, we're not taking them out of the 800.)

As far as I know there will be other exceptions.  The most disappointing one
is that it will *not* be possible to boot old 800 series machines off
any other 9000 machine -- only 815s can be run diskless -- whereas 300
series machines can be booted off any other 300 or 800.  I hope I am
wrong ... :-)

(Common) Lisp on 800 is another possible exception (?).  Presently, there is
a transition from HPCL I to HPCL II (Lucid Lisp) going on.  I wonder if
HPCL II will be available on the 800s....

--Bo

paul@mecazh.UUCP (Paul Breslaw) (08/22/89)

> 7.0 is planned to bring the 300 and 800 much closer together, but the
> match is not absolute.  Sorry Roger, but you've struck on one of the few
> exceptions:  Disk partitions on the 300 are not planned.  (If it's any
> consolation, though, we're not taking them out of the 800.)

Unix has sensibly partitioned disks since the PDP-11 days. It allows
existing physical disks to be logically split up according to the
needs of ones users.  Big disks are more economical than small ones, 
but small file systems are more manageable than large ones - particularly 
in view of the current brain-damaged HP 1/4" cartridge philosophy. 

If my users requirements change, HP presumably would like me to buy 
new disks. 

This really is one of the worst decisions I have heard in a long time.
Please reconsider it.


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