[comp.sys.hp] rlogin + lost packets = frustrated user

seligman@polya.Stanford.EDU (Scott Seligman) (08/24/89)

We're been having a problem using rlogin from our HP9000/350's
running HP/UX 6.5.

It seems that our net is losing the occasional packet here and there.
Shouldn't be any big deal since they get retransmitted, but the 
retransmission timeout is set unreasonably high -- somewhere on the
order of 2 seconds.

So I'll be typing along and suddenly the characters I'm typing stop
echoing to the screen.  I continue to type, and a couple of seconds
later there's a quick burst of activity and the echoing catches up
to where it should be.  Everything works fine for another minute or
so (depending on the load on the net), and then it happens again.  
Annoying.

So, is there any way to correct this?  Some parameter I can set
somewhere?  Isn't the timeout supposed to be set using an adaptive 
algorithm?  The normal roundtrip time for a packet is on the order 
of milliseconds.

tnx,
Scott

seligman@cs.stanford.edu
...!decwrl!polya.stanford.edu!seligman

accu@hpuepta.UUCP (Accugraph Corp) (08/25/89)

I am also experiencing this problem on my 340 using 6.5 running remote X Clients
(e.g. hpterms on RS20 running an X Server).  I was told by the developer of the
PC X Server that it is typical for BSD based networking systems to timeout
for approx. 2 seconds before retransmitting after an error.  This is a REAL
pain in an interactive application.  Is there some technical reason why this
parameter is not tuneable? (I know you ca'n't tune a fish).

Philip Webster

hplabs!hpuepta!acgrph!pw

timg@hpurvmc.HP.COM ( Tim Gill (NSE) ) (08/26/89)

 
The TCP timer is fixed at 3.0 seconds in pre-7.0 HP-UX.  This will change to	the adaptive mode in the 7.0 release. On the RS20, if you have the 3Com Lan
card then the problem here is due to the 1-packet buffer limit on the card.
If back-to-back packets arrive and the cpu is busy, the second gets dropped,and
3 seconds later the timer pops. New card in the works for thinlan & a new card
for Starlan 10  exists that has more buffering.  

Tim Gill