[comp.sys.hp] HP-IB vs SCSI discs

wayne@dsndata.uucp (Wayne Schlitt) (12/06/89)

i am looking to by another disc drive and i would like to know which
will give you better performance, an HPIB disc drive (using a
high-speed HPIB of course) or a SCSI disc?  i believe that there are
two types of SCSI controller cards: asynchronous and synchronous.

from what i know a high speed HPIB has about 1meg/sec bandwidth, the
async SCSI has 1.5meg/sec bandwidth and the sync SCSI has 4meg/sec
bandwidth.

will the synchronous SCSI really be that much faster?  will the disc
actually transmit data that quickly?  can a HP9000/370 receive data
that quickly?  does anybody have a recommendation on a _fast_ disc
that has >150meg.  (preferably 300meg or so)


-wayne

kinsell@hpfcdj.HP.COM (Dave Kinsell) (12/12/89)

>will the synchronous SCSI really be that much faster?  will the disc
>actually transmit data that quickly?  can a HP9000/370 receive data
>that quickly?

The burst rate on the bus bus is negotiated between the mainframe and
each individual peripheral.  It is not uncommon for devices to be able
so sustain 4 meg/sec on the bus, for as long as the peripheral has data
in its buffer to transmit or room to receive.

However, the average data rate to the media under ideal conditions
is only about 1.5 meg/sec, with state-of-the-art 5.25" Winchesters.
With a typical multi-user load, it is much less, due to all the random
seeking required.  Therefore, the actual gains observed with one sync
SCSI disk on a bus may be minimal.

If you have multiple disks and you're able to balance the load among
them, then the higher bandwidth of SCSI can show real advantages. 
Exactly how much is highly workload dependent.  I've seen 50% type of
improvements, even when using slow disks.


-Dave Kinsell
 use kinsell@hpfcmb.hp.com


DISCLAIMER:  Not an official policy statement of the Hewlett-Packard Company.

tonyc@hpurvmc.HP.COM ( Tony Cox (SR) ) (12/13/89)

You may want to use the SCSI daughter board in lieu of the DIO-1
board as it is a faster interface. 

I have been encouraging my customers to try to go to SCSI based 
devices as a large amount of peripherals such as optical and dat
are going to be SCSI based.

The part number for the SCSI daughter board is 98265A.
tonyc