stoler@seas.gwu.edu (Rich Stoler) (01/10/90)
Would some authority at HP care to comment on HP's plans for this enhancement outlined below? Besides the routing benefits, this is a real important enhancement as far as Usenet News is concerned. Using these new features, more efficient "News" propogation methods can be implemented. (e.g., by coming up with a broadcast-type technique to spread the news, and replace most of the machine-to-machine forwarding that goes on now.) Thanks! Original Message follows: Message-Id: <9001052140.AA01228@risci.TN.CORNELL.EDU> To: tcp-ip@nic.ddn.mil, ietf-interest@venera.isi.edu, vmtp-ip@gregorio.stanford.edu Subject: IP Multicasting in SunOS Reply-To: Jeffrey C Honig <jch@risci.TN.CORNELL.EDU> Organization: Theory Center, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY Date: Fri, 05 Jan 90 16:40:07 -0500 Below is a copy of the RFE (Request for Enhancement) I submitted to Sun asking them to support IP Multicasting. I'd like to encourage other people to do the same, and not just with Sun, but with other vendors too. For most BSD 4.3 based systems the code is already available so implementation should not be too difficult from a technical aspect. The hard part is convincing them that we want it. Jeff The purpose of this RFE is to request that SunOS support IP multicast communications and Internet Group Management Protocol (IGMP) as soon as possible. IP Multicasting and IGMP, as defined in [RFC1112], are both "recommended standard" internet protocols for use in the DARPA Internet. IP Multicasting is listed as a feature that "SHOULD" be implemented and IGMP is a listed as a feature that "MAY" be implemented in [RFC1122]. Whenever multicast capability has been made available on local area networks, applications which exploited and benefited from it have rapidly evolved. Since the Internet is moving toward an environment of high-speed circuits, and high-performance hosts, we can expect an increasing demand for real-time interactive and transaction-style applications not just on local networks but across the nation. IP multicasting provides many benefits. On the local network level it reduces the amount of broadcast traffic a host must process. A host need only subscribe to the multicast groups it desires. On a regional and national level multicasting will reduce the amount of traffic required to "flood" information to distributed applications in the internet. One protocol to support wide-area multicasting already exists, more sophisticated ones are under currently under development, support is already committed by some major router vendors. Widely available support for IP multicasting in SunOS would greatly benefit this development. One major use for IP multicasting is the Open Shortest Path First (OSPF) designed by the IETF and submitted as a "proposed protocol" for Internet routing. OSPF is a much more robust interior routing protocol than RIP and is a major candidate to be the "recommended standard" interior routing protocol for the Internet. OSPF was designed to use IP multicasting instead of IP broadcasting to reduce the broadcast traffic that must be handled by non-participating hosts. Suns are the Unix system of choice for use as high speed routers. Their ability to support IP multicasting and hence OSPF will be crucial in their continuing to be so. The Internet of the near future will not be able to survive without a more robust interior routing protocol than RIP. Sun has proven itself to be a leader in workstation field, especially in wide-spread use of networking. Implementation of IP multicasting would help maintain this leadership. RFC1112: Deering, S. "Host Extensions for IP Multicasting". August, 1989. RFC1122 Internet Engineering Task Force. "Requirements for Internet Hosts -- Communication Layers". October 1989. End of Original Message.
dfc@hpindda.HP.COM (Don Coolidge) (01/11/90)
We don't have IP multicasting in our current release, since HP-UX networking has been 4.2BSD-based to date. However, we've already merged it into our next release, which has 4.3BSD-ish networking. As for a release date, I'd suggest contacting your local HP rep. - Don Coolidge HP Information Networks Division ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Disclaimer: Of course, this is only me talking for myself, not for HP. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------