bla@hpcupt1.HP.COM (Brad Ahlf) (02/01/90)
> Does HP have any plans to produce their own C++ compiler in the > near future? I'm dissatisfied with the level of support of HP > machines for AT&T's cfront and GNU's g++, and would like to use a > real system. Yes. And thanks for asking :-) :-) At UniForum, HP announced C++ 2.0 products for HP9000 Series 300 and Series 800/600 and HP/Apollo MC680X0 and PRISM systems. Customers and competitors were both very impressed with the HP offerings. A C++ product (1.2) is already available on Apollo platforms. Third parties like CCS and Oregon Software also sell C++ on HP platforms. The HP products will be orderable (on the corporate price list) in April, with availability in May. Contact your local Sales Rep (tell them to order HP C++/HP-UX Data Sheet with part# 5952-1568 if they don't know anything yet) or call the Customer Information Center (1-800-752-0900). Short summary: HP's port of ATT cfront 2.0 to HP9000 and Apollo platforms. HP9000 includes object-oriented debugger!, tool support, a general-purpose data abstraction library, and header files for HP-UX, X11, Motif, and more. HP9000 tools include gprof, lex, yacc, nm, make, mkmf, c++filt, and dem. HP C++ uses command line options and pragmas consistent with HP C. 16-bit character NLS support for literals and comments. One pass linking. C preprocessor support for C++. All ATT 2.0 class libraries. Global optimization. Generates K&R or ANSI C code. Interlanguage calling. Full ATT and HP documentation. HP quality is also included in all of the C++ products, of course. The HP9000 and Apollo implementations share source code and are of course highly compatible. The HP and Apollo implementations differ somewhat on system-related things like debugger, libraries, headers, and tool support. I think that you will like these products a LOT, but I am obviously biased, so check it out for yourself - Please! > Am I dreaming? No. And you can probably expect other C++ products in the future too. And no, we can't talk about them yet so don't ask. > Cliff Beshers Brad Ahlf Hewlett-Packard bla%hpda@hplabs.hp.com
burdick@hpindda.HP.COM (Matt Burdick) (02/02/90)
> Does HP have any plans to produce their own C++ compiler in the near > future? I'm dissatisfied with the level of support of HP machines for > AT&T's cfront and GNU's g++, and would like to use a real system. From comp.sys.apollo: --------------- > We just announced C++ 2.0 for both Apollo and HP9000 platforms > at Uniforum. It is expected to be available in May. > John Vasta Hewlett-Packard Apollo Systems Division > vasta@apollo.hp.com M.S. CHA-01-LT --------------- I don't know if this means we have C++ 1.0 right now on Apollo or HP9000 platforms (or both), but I believe 2.0 is a C++ -> C translator with provisions for source-level debugging on the C++ code. -matt -- Matt Burdick | Hewlett-Packard burdick@hpda.cup.hp.com OR | burdick%hpda@hplabs.hp.com | Information Technology (IND/IT)
steve-t@hpfcso.HP.COM (Steve Taylor) (02/02/90)
/comp.sys.hp/beshers@cs.cs.columbia.edu (Clifford Beshers)/10:39am Jan 31,1990/
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo Subject: C++ v2.0 When?
From: dbfunk@ICAEN.UIOWA.EDU (David B Funk) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1990 2:09GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa
Scanning through the sr10.2 release I see provisions for C++ v2.0
in the include files and debugger. Does anybody have any idea when
it will be released? Dave Funk
From: vasta@apollo.HP.COM (John Vasta) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1990 22:11GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Apollo Division; Chelmsford, MA
We just announced C++ 2.0 for both Apollo and HP9000 platforms
at Uniforum. It is expected to be available in May.
From: speyer@joy.cad.mcc.com (Bruce Speyer) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1990 20:31GMT
Organization: MCC CAD Program, Austin, TX
Thanks to John for posting the Apollo/HP C++ information.
I had previously seen the 1/22/90 page#5 Unix Today announcement which
told me that the product will be released in May, it is the same source
on both platforms, and the price starts at $1600 and rises depending
upon the platform.
Thats all the information I know, can anybody supply more details?
At least, Is this a translator or compiler?
Bruce Speyer / MCC CAD Program WORK: [512] 338-3668
3500 W. Balcones Center Dr., Austin, TX. 78759 ARPA: speyer@mcc.com
From: vasta@apollo.HP.COM (John Vasta) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1990 19:46GMT
It is based upon the AT&T 2.0 translator release. Source level debug
support is included on both platforms.
John Vasta Hewlett-Packard Apollo Systems Division
vasta@apollo.hp.com M.S. CHA-01-LT
(508) 256-6600 x6362 300 Apollo Drive, Chelmsford, MA 01824
UUCP: {decwrl!decvax, mit-eddie, attunix}!apollo!vastawunder@hp-ses.SDE.HP.COM (Walter Underwood) (02/02/90)
Does HP have any plans to produce their own C++ compiler in the near future? We showed C++ at Uniforum. A supported cfront (with *many* fixes), and support in the debugger. We have been using it internally for real projects and it works just fine. A pure compiler would be a much larger project. Personally, I think that debugger support is more important than the compiling tecnology. As always, contact your local office for more info. Walter "not in the compiler labs" Underwood
manoj@hplego.HP.COM (Manoj Dadoo) (02/02/90)
<< Does HP have any plans to produce their own C++ compiler in the << near future? I'm dissatisfied with the level of support of HP << machines for AT&T's cfront and GNU's g++, and would like to use a << real system. << << Am I dreaming? HP announce a C++ product for HP 9000 s300 and s800 computers as well as Apollo computers. The HP C++ will be available with a source level debugger. We belive HP C++ symbolic debugger has industry leading functionalities for debugging object oriented features of C++. The debugger was shown recently at Uniforum conference. HP C++ will be on price list in April 1990 and should be available shortly aftrewards for customer shipments. Manoj
dan@hpurvmc.HP.COM ( Dan Felman (SE) ) (02/02/90)
/ hpurvmc:comp.sys.hp / beshers@cs.cs.columbia.edu (Clifford Beshers) / 12:39 pm Jan 31, 1990 / Does HP have any plans to produce their own C++ compiler in the near future? I'm dissatisfied with the level of support of HP machines for AT&T's cfront and GNU's g++, and would like to use a real system. Am I dreaming? -- ----------------------------------------------- Cliff Beshers Columbia University Computer Science Department beshers@cs.columbia.edu -- ----------------------------------------------- Cliff Beshers Columbia University Computer Science Department beshers@cs.columbia.edu ----------
dan@hpurvmc.HP.COM ( Dan Felman (SE) ) (02/02/90)
Sorry for the last response. The answer is ..... definitely YES... If what I hear is correct, 8.0 should bring a C++ 2.0 plus support under xdb ..... Regards, Dan