wehr@fmeed1.UUCP (Bruce Wehr) (02/23/90)
We just recently got on Ford Motor Company's Dearborn Campus Ethernet - this allows us to do telnet/ftp/etc... with other Ford hosts. I can telnet to our VAX (running Wollongongs TCP/IP package) and to Masscomps, Fortunes, PC Clones, etc ... One box I do uucp mail with over a Sytek LAN (9600 baud). I can now telnet to this box. The sysadm of this box has ported a uucp server to his box on port 540 (like the telnet server, is runs a login/passwd clone to verify identity, but it then execs a uucico instead of a shell). I would like to do uucp with him over the net. He's not familiar with HP-UX (we're running 6.5 on a 370). He thought that I'd only have to do a few things: 1) Put in a Systems entry that had TCP or NET as the device type 2) Make sure his system name and Internet address appear in /etc/hosts I have done these things, and get 'requested device not found' messages from uucico. He can't give me any more ideas. So, how *does* one do uucp over the Ethernet with HP-UX 6.5? Thanks in advance for any and all help. -- Bruce Wehr (wehr%dptc.decnet@srlvx0.srl.ford.com) (...!mailrus!sharkey!fmeed1!wehr) (wehr%fmeed1.uucp@mailgw.cc.umich.edu) Ford Motor Company - Electronics Division 17000 Rotunda Drive, ETC Room LN081, Dearborn, Michigan 48121 (313)845-3039
rdg@hpfcmgw.HP.COM (Rob Gardner) (02/24/90)
> One box I do uucp mail with over a Sytek LAN (9600 baud). I can now > telnet to this box. The sysadm of this box has ported a uucp server to > his box on port 540 (like the telnet server, is runs a login/passwd > clone to verify identity, but it then execs a uucico instead of a > shell). I would like to do uucp with him over the net. Sorry, you can't do that. HP does not support ethernet connections with uucp. We do have a facility called vt-uucp which will let you talk uucp with another HP machine over a lan. However, I have a program that *might* work for you. Yes, it's another pty kludge, I'm afraid... Rob
markb@hpunmia.HP.COM (Mark Barowicz) (02/27/90)
Although I have never done it there is a description of how-to in the HP-UX Concepts and Tutorials: Shells and Miscellaneous Tools , HP part # 97089-90062. Refer to the section on Vt. Basically it describes the care and feeding of vt and vtdeamon and associated uucp configuration files to allow the user to perform uucp over a LAN. I'm not sure if this will allow you access to non HP systems but it should be a step in the right direction. Mark Barowicz Hewlett Packard Novi Customer Escalation Center This response does not represent the official position of, or statement by, the Hewlett-Packard Company. The above data is provided for informational purposes only. It is supplied without warranty of any kind.
rdg@hpfcmgw.HP.COM (Rob Gardner) (03/01/90)
> Although I have never done it there is a description of how-to in the > HP-UX Concepts and Tutorials: Shells and Miscellaneous Tools , > HP part # 97089-90062. Refer to the section on Vt. > > Basically it describes the care and feeding of vt and vtdeamon and > associated uucp configuration files to allow the user to perform uucp > over a LAN. I'm not sure if this will allow you access to non HP systems > but it should be a step in the right direction. The vt/uucp stuff only works between HP machines. Rob
wehr@fmeed1.UUCP (Bruce Wehr) (03/02/90)
In article <1080130@hpfcmgw.HP.COM>, rdg@hpfcmgw.HP.COM (Rob Gardner) writes: > > > Although I have never done it there is a description of how-to in the > > HP-UX Concepts and Tutorials: Shells and Miscellaneous Tools , > > HP part # 97089-90062. Refer to the section on Vt. > > The vt/uucp stuff only works between HP machines. > > Rob It definitely makes interesting reading - I *do* have some HP machines I'd like to do this with. However, my Concepts manual talks about setting this up in terms of old-style UUCP (L-vtdevices, L-devices, L.sys - needless to say, it doesn't work). So, 2 questions: 1) Does anyone know how to set this up to HP machines using HDB UUCP? 2) Are there any plans to support this to non-HP machines in the future? Thanks to all who've helped so far. -- Bruce Wehr (wehr%dptc.decnet@srlvx0.srl.ford.com) (...!mailrus!sharkey!fmeed1!wehr) (wehr%fmeed1.uucp@mailgw.cc.umich.edu) Ford Motor Company - Electronics Division 17000 Rotunda Drive, ETC Room LN081, Dearborn, Michigan 48121 (313)845-3039
rdg@hpfcmgw.HP.COM (Rob Gardner) (03/06/90)
> > The vt/uucp stuff only works between HP machines. > > It definitely makes interesting reading - I *do* have some HP machines > I'd like to do this with. However, my Concepts manual talks about > setting this up in terms of old-style UUCP (L-vtdevices, L-devices, > L.sys - needless to say, it doesn't work). So, 2 questions: > > 1) Does anyone know how to set this up to HP machines using HDB > UUCP? Naturally, substitute "Devices" for "L-Devices", and "Systems" for "L.sys", etc. I don't know if it really works with HDB since I have never tried it myself. > 2) Are there any plans to support this to non-HP machines in the > future? Without risk of revealing any secret HP plans, I think I can state emphatically that the facility known as "vt-uucp" will never, never, ever work with non-hp machines. This is because "vt" is a proprietary service, and will never appear on other vendor's machines. This is not to say that it won't be possible for use uucp over lan- that's just a small matter of programming. Rob