mco@slimer.UUCP (Mark C. Otto) (06/26/90)
In article <1536@wiznet.UUCP> wiz@wiznet.UUCP (Kean Johnston) writes: >Help! Please can anyone tell me if there is a gate-way into the HP-DESK >network via uucp/usenet? [...] Yes, there is. Simply send your mail to ...!hplabs!hpXXXX.desk.hp.com!persons_name%YY where XXXX is the HPDESK location code and YY is the sublocation code. hplabs HPDESK gateway will take care of the rest. In the other direction, send HPDESK stuff to username (system.uucp) /HP1900/ux and hplabs will do its best to find a useable route to your UNIX machine once the mail has reached it at location 1900. By the way, make sure to use the full name of the person you are sending to separated by underscores when going into the gateway from UNIX land. HP is a large company and may people have similar first and/or last names (I should know, there's a Markus Otto in Stuttgart who used to get my HPDESK mail all the time!) and an ambiguous reference may be mis-routed. Also, replce 'username' with the UNIX user login name on the UNIX box you are trying to reach and be sure to ignore the 'Unknown name but location and sublocation OK' warning that HPDESK will generate - it accepts the message and routes it correctly anyway. Replace 'system.uucp' with your UNIX system name and domain (or uucp if that's all you have (like me)). Good luck reaching your friends at HP. -- Mark C. Otto EMail: mco@slimer, {teemc | hpftc}!slimer!mco Voice: 1-313-441-4264 USnail: 5133 Heather #208, Dearborn, MI. 48126 Quote: "Yeah. Right. Kermit my a*s." - Mark C. Otto, '90
jsadler@misty.boeing.com (Jim Sadler) (06/27/90)
I tried it and this is what happened: >From uunet!hp-sde.sde.hp.com!MAILER-DAEMON@bcstec Tue Jun 26 14:53 PDT 1990 >Received: from bcstec by misty; Tue, 26 Jun 90 14:53:50 pdt >Return-Path: <uunet!hp-sde.sde.hp.com!MAILER-DAEMON@bcstec> >Received: from uunet.UUCP by bcstec.boeing.com (4.0/SMI-4.0) > id AA16435; Tue, 26 Jun 90 14:55:59 PDT >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by uunet.uu.net (5.61/1.14) with SMTP > id AA27655; Tue, 26 Jun 90 16:59:23 -0400 >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28289; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:59:17 -0700 >Date: Tue, 26 Jun 90 9:15:51 PDT >From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <uunet!hp-sde.sde.hp.com!MAILER-DAEMON@bcstec> >Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable >Message-Id: <9006262059.AA28289@hp-sde.sde.hp.com> >To: <bcstec!misty!jsadler> >Status: RO > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > >While connected to desk.hp.com [15.255.152.2] (tcp): >>-> DATA ><<< 554 Too many hops (30 max) > >554 <hp2410!00!mike_flynn@desk.hp.com>... Service unavailable > > ----- Unsent message follows ----- >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28288; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:59:17 -0700 >Return-Path: <bcstec!misty!jsadler@uunet.UU.NET> >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28284; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:59:14 -0700 >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28277; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:59:09 -0700 >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28269; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:59:05 -0700 >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28263; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:59:01 -0700 >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28257; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:58:57 -0700 >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28251; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:58:48 -0700 >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28242; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:58:43 -0700 >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28233; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:58:39 -0700 >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28224; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:58:32 -0700 >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28214; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:58:25 -0700 >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28200; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:58:17 -0700 >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28190; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:58:07 -0700 >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28172; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:57:57 -0700 >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28159; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:57:47 -0700 >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28151; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:57:38 -0700 >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28140; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:57:32 -0700 >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28130; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:57:27 -0700 >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28119; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:57:21 -0700 >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28106; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:57:14 -0700 >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28096; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:57:06 -0700 >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28086; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:57:01 -0700 >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28077; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:56:56 -0700 >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28068; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:56:49 -0700 >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28035; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:56:22 -0700 >Received: from hp-sde.sde.hp.com by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28022; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:56:16 -0700 >Received: from uunet.UU.NET by hp-sde.sde.hp.com with SMTP > (16.2A/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA28012; Tue, 26 Jun 90 13:56:10 -0700 >Received: from bcstec.UUCP by uunet.uu.net (5.61/1.14) with UUCP > id AA26434; Tue, 26 Jun 90 16:56:05 -0400 >Received: from misty by bcstec.boeing.com (4.0/SMI-4.0) > id AA13065; Tue, 26 Jun 90 09:18:15 PDT >Message-Id: <9006261618.AA13065@bcstec.boeing.com> >Received: by misty; Tue, 26 Jun 90 09:15:52 pdt >From: Jim Sadler <bcstec!misty!jsadler@uunet.UU.NET> >Subject: test message >To: uunet!desk.hp.com!hp2410!00!mike_flynn@uunet.UU.NET >Date: Tue, 26 Jun 90 9:15:51 PDT >X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.2 PL13] > > > > >Test message via uunet and hp desk attempt #1. >-- > It didn't seem worth attempt #2 :-) jim sadler 206-234-9009 email uunet!bcstec!jsadler | hplabs!hpubvwa!b-mrda!jim and one of this days: (root)jsadler@misty.ca.boeing.com >
wunder@hp-ses.SDE.HP.COM (Walter Underwood) (06/28/90)
These two are highly unlikeley to work, unless sendmail gets lucky:
...!uunet!desk.hp.com!hp0000!01!john_young
john_young%01%hp0000@desk.hp.com
This one is right:
john_young%01@hp0000.desk.hp.com
but it a shorter version will work as well, since the sublocation is
no longer necessary:
john_young@hp0000.desk.hp.com
Folks may have difficulty replying, because the address format is
different on the HP DESK side, and because some of the mail realays
are diodes (they pass mail in but not out). The HP person should
talk to their Local Messaging Coordinator to get help.
wundercricket@hpcc01.HP.COM (Jiminy Cricket) (06/28/90)
Wow. Everyone who posted responses seems to have a pretty good grasp of what it takes to get mail into HP Desk. I'm impressed. I would amend the advice given just slightly: John Milburn writes: For an HPDesk address of the form "John Young / hp0000 / 01 ", the easiest way is probably something like: ...!uunet!desk.hp.com!hp0000!01!john_young (Thank goodness that's not John's real electronic mail address.) Since uunet is a fully domain-smart Internet host, that could be rewritten ...!uunet!hpnnnn.desk.hp.com!first_last where "hpnnnn" is the location code of the addressed. The sublocation should be unnecessary. John Milburn writes again: It is a little cleaner as an internet style address: john_young%01%hp0000@desk.hp.com It's even cleaner without the sublocation: first_last@hpnnnn.desk.hp.com This form doesn't rely on mailers understanding "%" addresses. Mark C. Otto writes: Simply send your mail to ...!hplabs!hpXXXX.desk.hp.com!persons_name%YY That's fine, too, but best leave of the "%YY". It's unnecessary and might confuse a less-than-brilliant mailer. And finally, Jim Sadler writes: I tried it and this is what happened: [lotsa bounces at hp-sde.sde.hp.com, my baby, with the nasty error message: 554 <hp2410!00!mike_flynn@desk.hp.com>... Service unavailable] Partly my own fault - hp-sde should have recognized "desk.hp.com" as an alias. She now does. An easier address than what Jim used: uunet!desk.hp.com!hp2410!00!mike_flynn@uunet.UU.NET would be uunet!hp2410.desk.hp.com!first_last One last note jim sadler 206-234-9009 email uunet!bcstec!jsadler | hplabs!hpubvwa!b-mrda!jim and one of this days: (root)jsadler@misty.ca.boeing.com "jsadler@misty.boeing.com" looks like a good address to me. It's got MX information, anyway. cricket ________________________________________________________________________________ Cricket Liu Internet: cricket@winnie.corp.hp.com Domain Administrator and Technical UUCP: hplabs!hp-sde!cricket Contact, hp.com Hewlett-Packard Corporate Telnet: 424-3723 Palo Alto, California Phone: (415) 424-3723 ________________________________________________________________________________