mjb%hoosier.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Mark Bradakis) (07/14/90)
Does anyone know if HP's Softbench supports a complete version of C++, or is it a subset or ??? How well does Softbench work, in general? mjb. mjb@hoosier.utah.edu "The tank is full, the switch is on. The night is warm, the cops are gone."
tobbe@isy.liu.se (Torbjorn Kronander) (07/18/90)
mjb%hoosier.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Mark Bradakis) writes: >Does anyone know if HP's Softbench supports a complete version of >C++, or is it a subset or ??? How well does Softbench work, in general? >mjb. >mjb@hoosier.utah.edu >"The tank is full, the switch is on. >The night is warm, the cops are gone." Followup question. Where is C++ for HPUX??!! We hace tried to ge tit from our local sales-rep but he cannot manage to order it. In fact when he does the factory handling it claims the product does not exist...!? Is anyone using the HP version of C++ out there ? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Torbjorn Kronander tobbe@isy.liu.se Dept. of EE Linkoping University Sweden ph +46 13 28 22 07
bla@hpcupt1.HP.COM (Brad Ahlf) (07/19/90)
>Does anyone know if HP's Softbench supports a complete version of >C++, or is it a subset or ??? How well does Softbench work, in general? >mjb@hoosier.utah.edu The current shipping versions of HP SoftBench do NOT fully support C++. The current HP SoftBench versions can 'limp' along somewhat with C++, but there are major limitations and it is definitely not "HP supported". HP announced in June a future version of SoftBench which FULLY supports C++. The complete SoftBench environment, including a C++ Browser and Development tool (C++Developer), is called "C++/SoftBench" and a Technical Data Sheet is available from your local Sales Rep or from the Customer Information Center (US 1-800-752-0900). Data sheet part number is 5952-2933 for "C++/SoftBench for HP-UX" and 5952-2946 for just the "C++Developer for HP-UX" (Browser and Development tool). Other data sheets are "HP C++ for HP-UX" 5952-1568 and "Domain/C++" 5952-0746. |Followup question. Where is C++ for HPUX??!! |We hace tried to ge tit from our local sales-rep but he cannot |manage to order it. In fact when he does the factory handling it |claims the product does not exist...!? |Is anyone using the HP version of C++ out there ? |Torbjorn Kronander tobbe@isy.liu.se Your sales rep CAN order it right now! I am part of the 'factory' for HP C++ and I can assure you that this product DOES exist! Perhaps your sales rep meant that the software distribution 'factory' did not know that the HP C++ product exists under the sales rep's part number. Does your sales rep know about the above technical data sheets? HP C++ has been on the 'corporate price list' (CPL) since April 1990. One possible problem is that the part numbers on the data sheet have an omission/typo. For Series 300, order part numbers B1691A and B1693A (not B1691). Other information is correct. The software distribution organization should be able to correct such orders. I am checking on this right now. Now, about shipments. Blush. The HP C++ software was submitted to the HP software manufacturing and distribution center in April and, um, it is due to ship 'real soon now'. Seriously, customer shipments of HP C++ are of the 'highest' priority right now in that organization and real shipments should begin within a couple weeks. There have been some production problems along the way that have delayed the shipment more than once. My profuse apologies, and also my promise that I (and several others) am doing EVERYTHING possible to expedite the shipments of HP C++. Regards, Brad Ahlf bla@hpda.hp.com This response does not represent the official position of, or statement by, the Hewlett-Packard Company. The above data is provided for informational purposes only. It is supplied without warranty of any kind.
nick@abblund.se (07/19/90)
In article <1990Jul18.084840.4641@isy.liu.se> tobbe@isy.liu.se (Torbjorn Kronander) writes: >Followup question. Where is C++ for HPUX??!! >We hace tried to ge tit from our local sales-rep but he cannot >manage to order it. In fact when he does the factory handling it >claims the product does not exist...!? > >Is anyone using the HP version of C++ out there ? Yes. We have a beta release. To get it we had to apply to become an approved beta test site for HP. I guess it comes direct from HP labs and bypasses the factory. The official release isn't out yet. It's much better than Glockenspiel's or Oregon's C++. Glockenspiel's 1.2 compiler had too many bugs. Maybe their 2.0 version is better. Oregon's compiler couldn't handle large files, wouldn't compile InterViews, and it's not AT&T standard either. HP's C++ is the best we've seen, and has a good debugger. It's slow at compiling though. -- Nick Hoggard Phone: + 46 46 168524 Man-Machine Communication Lab Fax: + 46 46 145620 ABB Corporate Research, Dept KLL Internet: nick@abblund.se Ideon Research Park, S-223 70 Lund, Sweden
bla@hpcupt1.HP.COM (Brad Ahlf) (07/21/90)
| >Is anyone using the HP version of C++ out there ? | Yes. We have a beta release. To get it we had to apply to become an | approved beta test site for HP. I guess it comes direct from HP labs | and bypasses the factory. The official release isn't out yet. Actually, for convenience, HP just uses a slightly modified 'beta' agreement form for 'pre-releases' of software rather than creating a special new legal form just for pre-releases. And, you got HP C++ through the factory, and not directly from the lab. Only the software manufacturing and distribution organization was bypassed (due to production problems -- see other posting). The official HP C++ release will be out extremely soon. You probably have the actual 'release' bits. | It's much better than Glockenspiel's | or Oregon's C++. Glockenspiel's 1.2 compiler had too many bugs. Maybe | their 2.0 version is better. Oregon's compiler couldn't handle large | files, wouldn't compile InterViews, and it's not AT&T standard either. | HP's C++ is the best we've seen, and has a good debugger. It's slow | at compiling though. Thanks for the compliments! Have you tried using '-g1' instead of '-g' for speeding up compiles and taking up less disk space when compiling with debug? You can read more in /etc/newconfig/HPCXX/ReleaseNotes. We are working on speeding up the compiles for our next release. | Nick Hoggard Phone: + 46 46 168524 Brad Ahlf bla@hpda.hp.com This response does not represent the official position of, or statement by, the Hewlett-Packard Company. The above data is provided for informational purposes only. It is supplied without warranty of any kind.
darryl@hpuorfa.HP.COM (Darryl J. Coppenhaver) (07/25/90)
Yes, C++ for HP-UX is indeed a product that you can order and get delivery of: C++ for 9000/300 B16991 C++ for 9000/808 or 834CH 92451A C++ for 9000/815 92500A C++ for 9000/825/832/635 92501A C++ for 9000/835/645 92542A C++ for 9000/840/845 92502A C++ for 9000/850/855 92503A C++ for 9000/870 92543A Notes: This is a full ATT C++ cfont 2.0 translater compatable language system with c++ source debugger and contributed C++ examples. Next is c++ support for HP-SoftBench, the softbench is being extend to support C++ (editor support, builder (make) support, static code analysis, and window source debugger. These products are not yet shipping but will be out some time in the fall time frame. C++/SoftBench 9000/300 License B1636A Media & Manuals B1637A Doc Set B1640A C++/SoftBench 9000/800 License B1638A Media & Manuals B1639A Doc Set B1640A Call you local HP office for more details. Darryl Coppenhaver darryl@hpuorfa << an employee of HP but not a spokesman for HP>>