greg@cityzoo.acs.umbc.edu (Greg Sylvain) (08/31/90)
Greg Sylvain
Academic Computing Services
Hello hello,
Does anyone know if HP offers an internals class for there hp-ux
operationg system. They offer a class in programming with system calls, but
I was sort of hoping for a real internals class. Specifically for there
9000 series 300 machines, if not the 800 series will due.
If this class could be offered on the east coast that would be
great, and easier to talk my boss into it. I know of at least 3-4 people
willing to take it, if it's offered somewhat locally.
Thanks,
greg
Systems Programmer
UUCP: ...!{uunet}!umbc5!greg
Internet (Arpa) : greg@umbc5.umbc.edu
BITNET : GREGS@UMBCpaul@prcrs.UUCP (Paul Hite) (09/04/90)
In article <3856@umbc3.UMBC.EDU>, greg@cityzoo.acs.umbc.edu (Greg Sylvain) writes: > > Does anyone know if HP offers an internals class for there hp-ux > operationg system. Well, I'm not sure that it's an official offering, but our local office, Rockville, Md, put one together for us. It was taught here at PRC and we had a bunch of students. I'm not sure that you can them to teach just one or two students since it was a special. The class was called "HP-UX Theory of Operation" and it was taught by Brenda Suarez-Merril (sp?) and Andy Suchoski (Our SE). This class is taught to SE's but Rockville offered to teach it locally to some large customers. We got a nifty book with the course. We asked that our course be skewed to the 800 series and it was. There is also a deeper course called "HP-UX Internals" taught to SE's. The Rockville office doesn't offer this, but they told us that if we paid enough to cover prep time, it could be arranged. We declined. We have a pile of source code licenses including one for HP-UX itself. This was one of the prerequisites. This prerequisite is why this course won't be generally offered. Even if HP waived the HP-UX source license requirement, there is still the murky issue of the AT&T UNIX license. Paul Hite PRC Realty Systems McLean,Va uunet!prcrs!paul (703) 556-2243 You can't which way the train went by studying its tracks.
paul@prcrs.UUCP (Paul Hite) (09/04/90)
In article <1076@prcrs.UUCP>, I write: > > We have a pile of source code licenses including one for HP-UX itself. I got quite a bit of email from that comment. Apparently some of you have tried to obtain an HP-UX source code license but without much luck. Rather than answer the email individually, I thought that I'd just post. Here's what I know about the license. First you must have an AT&T source license. After that you can obtain a source license for a major release of HP-UX such as 3.0, 7.0, etc. There is no way to obtain the source for a minor release such as 3.1. Each release costs $25,000. I do not know if there is any kind of special deal for educational institutions. At present we have the source code for 3.0 but our management is balking at the thought of another $25,000 for 7.0. The product contains code for the stuff that comes with HP-UX. The kernel, drivers, libraries, and commands are all there. The compilers are missing, HP won't release the source code to these under any condition. (At least that's what they told us.) The source code for other products such as Netlink, ARPA/Berkeley, NFS, X, are also not present. I assume that they are available separately, but we have never tried to obtain them. Some of you wanted to know who to contact. We obtained the source code through our saleman. I assume that you should contact yours. Paul Hite PRC Realty Systems McLean,Va uunet!prcrs!paul (703) 556-2243 You can't tell which way the train went by studying its tracks.