[comp.sys.hp] Teaching math with HP calculators

keho@quads.uchicago.edu (thomas david kehoe) (12/11/90)

I'm hoping to get a summer job with Hewlett-Packard, and
I'm thinking of writing to them with some ideas for
marketing their 48SX and 28S calculators.  (I'm working
on an MBA at the University of Chicago; the 48SX and 28S
sell for about $300 and $200 respectively, and do calculus,
algebra, graphing, and about 2000 other things.)

The main idea is to develop textbooks for teaching calculus,
college algebra, trig, etc., with the calculators.  I remember
these courses as being long on the mechanics of the chain rule,
Gauss-Jordan elimination, etc., and short on solving word
problems.  With the HP calculators (or computer-based applications),
a course could quickly cover the mechanics and get on to setting
up and solving word problems.  Plus, the graphing functions
would also make the concepts easier to understand.

Could someone tell me whether there are already courses like
this?  Do they work well?  Do instructors like to offer them?
Are they using Macintosh applications, or HP calculators, or
what?  Are there textbooks?

My other idea was just to sell a funny poster about calculus
in college bookstores.  Maybe commission Gary Larsen to do
a "Far Side" about calculus.  (I remember the National Lampoon
poster of a woman on a beach saying "I love men who know
calculus".)  Then the back of the poster would have photos
of the 48SX and 28S, with copy about how they do calculus.
--
"Why my thoughts are my own, when they are in, but when they are out
they are another's." - Susanna Martin, executed for witchcraft, 1681.
Dave Kehoe  keho@midway.uchicago.edu  (312) 753-0119

keho@quads.uchicago.edu (thomas david kehoe) (12/11/90)

I'm trying to hustle up a summer job with Hewlett-Packard.
Do you think they'd go for the following ideas for marketing
the HP 48SX and 28S calculators?  (I'm working on a MBA at
the University of Chicago; the 48SX and 28S sell for about
$300 and $200 respectively and do calculus, graphing, algebra,
and about 2000 other things.)

The main idea is to develop textbooks for calculus, college
algrebra, trig, statistics, etc., using the HP 48SX and 28S.
The "slant" would be to spend less time on the mechanics of
the chain rule, Gauss-Jordan elimination, etc., and more
time setting up and solving word problems.  I assume that
people who use calculus in the "real world" use computer
applications or HP calculators instead of doing it by hand.
There would also be use of the graphing functions so that
students could get a picture of what they're doing.

The main point would be that math could be taught better
with computers/calculator applications, but teaching faster
could be another point.  Portland Community College
offers a 2-quarter calculus course with the 28S that replaces
the 3-quarter calculus course.

The 48SX doesn't do statistics as well as Minitab or other
statistics applications, so I won't push this.

Is this a good idea?  Would math instructors want to offer
such courses?  HP's calculator division has a reputation
for producing excellent manuals, so I'm sure the quality of
the textbook would be excellent.  Is HP already doing this?
Have other colleges offered such courses, and how did they work out?

My other idea for marketing the 48SX and 28S is to sell a
funny poster about calculus in college bookstores.
Maybe commision Gary Larsen to do a "Far Side" about 
calculus.  I remember that National Lampoon had a
fairly popular poster of a woman on a beach saying "I love
men who know calculus."  This would be too sexist for the
'90's, but something else could work.  The back of the
poster would have photos of the 48SX and 28S calculators
and copy describing how they do calculus.
--
"Why my thoughts are my own, when they are in, but when they are out
they are another's." - Susanna Martin, executed for witchcraft, 1681.
Dave Kehoe  keho@midway.uchicago.edu  (312) 753-0119

hb136@leah.albany.edu (Herb Brown) (12/15/90)

In article <1990Dec11.012425.7739@midway.uchicago.edu> keho@quads.uchicago.edu (thomas david kehoe) writes:
>
>The main idea is to develop textbooks for teaching calculus,
>college algebra, trig, etc., with the calculators. 
>
>Could someone tell me whether there are already courses like
>this?  Do they work well?  Do instructors like to offer them?
>Are they using Macintosh applications, or HP calculators, or
>what?  Are there textbooks?
>
>--
>Dave Kehoe  keho@midway.uchicago.edu  (312) 753-0119

I believe it is more useful to write material that makes use of the
technology in general, rather than a specific piece of the technology
such as Maple or one of the Super Hand-held Calculators. A generic
approach to the subject, which involves a generic approach to the use
of this technology without forcing one to use a particular machine
is certainly more attractive and would have wider appeal to mathematicians.
This way, the same material could be used with Maple and Amiga Computers
on the one hand, and HP48s on the other hand.
 
An excellent example is the paperback text "Explorations in Calculus
with a Computer Algebra System" by Donald Small & John Hosack, published
by McGraw Hill.
                                           Herb


-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Herb Brown  Math Dept  The Univ at Albany  Albany, NY 12222  (518) 442-4640
hibrown@leah.albany.edu or hibrown@cs.albany.edu  or  hb136@ALBNYVMS.BITNET
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

ERSHC@CUNYVM (12/16/90)

Its not clear that one needs to develop calc. texts for the
hp48 or 28. When I got my 28s, I also received the HP28S
'Professor's Pack', containing a bunch of slides on how to use the
28. I haven't checked to see if there is a similar one for
the 48, as I don't teach calc. Of course, this is not a text
designed around the use of a calculator, but I don't like that
idea anyway.

Eric