ollie@hydra.unm.edu (Ollie) (04/01/91)
Hi. I'm trying to get documentation and software for an "obsolete" 9836C. I've tried the local HP people but they haven't been able to help. This computer is to be used as part of a student built and operated satellite tracking station at UNM, and we'd like to use the HP-IB port for control of equipment. I posted to this group about a year ago asking for help, and someone was kind enough to donate about two boxes of software, but these disks were stolen ( along with our PC and other disks) in August. I guess the thief thought the HP disks had PC programs on them.. ugh Anyhow, we still have the 9836C and would love to get it up and running. Someone said we could run UNIX on it, but would need some extra memory and such. Help in this area would be appreciated, too. The group - Students for the Exploration and Development of Space - is a non-profit organization that's been around since 1980. We've been at UNM since 1987, so any contributions of software, manuals, or options for the unit can be recognized with the necessary paperwork from the university. BTW, security has been improved to prevent another morale-breaking break-in to our station. Thanks for the bandwidth. Ollie Eisman -- Ollie Eisman (N6LTJ) ollie@hydra.unm.edu (505)277-4845 3505 Lafayette Rd. NE #3, Albuquerque, New Mexico 87131, USA
rjn@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland) (04/02/91)
re: > I'm trying to get documentation and software for an "obsolete" 9836C. > I've tried the local HP people but they haven't been able to help. > This computer is to be used as part of a student built and operated > satellite tracking station at UNM, and we'd like to use the HP-IB port > for control of equipment. The 9836C (aka HP 9000 Model 236) may be obsolete, but HP still supports recent versions of the stand-alone BASIC and Pascal operating systems on it. These would be the variants of product numbers 98616 and 98617, and your local sales person should be able to help with that. BASIC is probably your best bet for easy HP-IB control. You need to determine how much RAM your machine has, since BASIC has grown since the 236 was new. > Someone said we could run UNIX on it, but would need some extra memory > and such. Help in this area would be appreciated, too. HP-UX 5.1 was the last rev for the Series 200 and can no longer be purchased (we are now at HP-UX 8.0). Even if you find a copy, the 236 would have to have a MC68010 processor (and it probably has an 8 or 12 Mhz 68000). Even if it has an '010, you would need 100+ Mbytes of hard disk, a 98620B DMA card, a 98625A/B high-speed HP-IB card and at least 2Mbytes of RAM. This would result in a Unix workstation that blazes along at about 0.7 MIPS :-) This is not only 1/100 the speed of our new stuff, it is really .s..l...o....w. (speaking as someone who used one). Stick with BASIC; it runs just fine on a 236. Regards, Hewlett-Packard Bob Niland Internet: rjn@FC.HP.COM 3404 East Harmony Road UUCP: [hplabs|hpfcse]!hpfcrjn!rjn Ft Collins CO 80525-9599
tonl@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com (Ton 't Lam CRC) (04/02/91)
Hi, if you are not using UN*X, then you must be using
(sorry, have used) BASIC/WS or PASCAL/WS.
Both BASIC and PASCAL are on the current HP price list.
product ordernumber notes
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Basic 6.0 98616A
Basic Compiler 98618A also as option with 98616A
Csub utilities 98616-17x40 x = 2 for 5 1/4-inch disks.
x = 4 for 3 1/2 single sided
x = 5 for 3 1/2 double sided
PASCAL 3.23 98617A
PASCAL documentation 98617-87901 should be enough
PASCAL System Internal 98617-87971 if you want to know the details.
Documentation
> Hi. I'm trying to get documentation and software for an "obsolete"
> 9836C. I've tried the local HP people but they haven't been able
> to help.
Huh ... Ask again and use these ordernumbers. They can tell you prices
"obsoleteness", etc..
Good Luck,
Ton 't Lam,
Hewlett-Packard
The Netherlands.