pearmana@prlhp1.prl.philips.co.uk (Andy Pearman) (05/16/91)
hhhmmm.....
When SAM replaced reconfig in HP-UX 7, I wish they had written it
to allow the "-m" option as in reconfig, so that you could run it
in line mode on a non-HP screen.
Not having an HP screen in my office means a long walk to the Computer
room to use the console to setup/delete users.
Can obviously do this without SAM, its just that reconfig was nice to
use.
Andy
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Andy Pearman, Computer Dept, Philips Research Labs, Redhill, Surrey, England.
pearmana@prl.philips.co.ukperry@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Perry Scott) (05/21/91)
>When SAM replaced reconfig in HP-UX 7, I wish they had written it >to allow the "-m" option as in reconfig, so that you could run it >in line mode on a non-HP screen. > >Not having an HP screen in my office means a long walk to the Computer >room to use the console to setup/delete users. > >Can obviously do this without SAM, its just that reconfig was nice to >use. > > Andy We added vt100 and wyse30 support for 8.0. Does this help ? Perry
awhitton@bwdlh128.BNR.CA (Alan Whitton) (05/22/91)
In article <5570642@hpfcdc.HP.COM>, perry@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Perry Scott) writes: |> >When SAM replaced reconfig in HP-UX 7, I wish they had written it |> >to allow the "-m" option as in reconfig, so that you could run it |> >in line mode on a non-HP screen. |> > |> >Not having an HP screen in my office means a long walk to the Computer |> >room to use the console to setup/delete users. |> > |> >Can obviously do this without SAM, its just that reconfig was nice to |> >use. |> > |> > Andy |> |> We added vt100 and wyse30 support for 8.0. Does this help ? |> |> Perry It helps, but what about an X11 xterm? I would have thought that was the next logical choice (of course I never studied logic :-). Be Seeing You, Alan Whitton -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- BNR Ottawa Disclaimer: "This is only my opinion" BITNET: awhitton@bnr.ca OR UUCP: ...uunet!bnrgate!forum!awhitton
logier@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au (Rob Logie) (05/22/91)
awhitton@bwdlh128.BNR.CA (Alan Whitton) writes: >In article <5570642@hpfcdc.HP.COM>, perry@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Perry Scott) writes: >|> >When SAM replaced reconfig in HP-UX 7, I wish they had written it >|> >to allow the "-m" option as in reconfig, so that you could run it >|> >in line mode on a non-HP screen. >|> > >|> >Not having an HP screen in my office means a long walk to the Computer >|> >room to use the console to setup/delete users. >|> > >|> >Can obviously do this without SAM, its just that reconfig was nice to >|> >use. >|> > >|> > Andy >|> >|> We added vt100 and wyse30 support for 8.0. Does this help ? >|> >|> Perry >It helps, but what about an X11 xterm? I would have thought that was >the next logical choice (of course I never studied logic :-). >Be Seeing You, >Alan Whitton >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >BNR Ottawa Disclaimer: "This is only my opinion" >BITNET: awhitton@bnr.ca OR UUCP: ...uunet!bnrgate!forum!awhitton A X11 XTERM is VT100 compatiable. -- Rob Logie EMAIL: logier@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au Telecom Australia FAX: +61 7 837 4704 TNE Computer Support Services PH: +61 7 837 5174 Brisbane Office "These are my opinions alone"
lodin@plains.NoDak.edu (Steve Lodin@Delco Electronics) (05/22/91)
In article <5570642@hpfcdc.HP.COM> perry@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Perry Scott) writes: > >We added vt100 and wyse30 support for 8.0. Does this help ? > >Perry Yes. Thanks. Steven W. Lodin Advanced Instrumentation Engineering Delco Electronics Corp AT&T: (317) 451-8722 GM: 8-322-8722 Domain: lodin%aiehost.uucp@[iuvax.cs.indiana.edu or dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu] or lodin@plains.nodak.edu or swlodin@koess.gm.hac.com UUCP: [iuvax or pur-ee]!aiehost!lodin GM: LODIN, SW <KOESS::SWLODIN>
wayne@dsndata.uucp (Wayne Schlitt) (05/22/91)
In article <5570642@hpfcdc.HP.COM> perry@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Perry Scott) writes: > >When SAM replaced reconfig in HP-UX 7, I wish they had written it > >to allow the "-m" option as in reconfig, so that you could run it > >in line mode on a non-HP screen. > > > > We added vt100 and wyse30 support for 8.0. Does this help ? > what about just supporting terminfo and be done with it? -wayne
awhitton@bwdlh128.BNR.CA (Alan Whitton) (05/23/91)
In article <1991May21.184707.5495@bwdls61.bnr.ca>, awhitton@bwdlh128.BNR.CA (Alan Whitton) writes: |> |> In article <5570642@hpfcdc.HP.COM>, perry@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Perry Scott) writes: |> |> >When SAM replaced reconfig in HP-UX 7, I wish they had written it |> |> >to allow the "-m" option as in reconfig, so that you could run it |> |> >in line mode on a non-HP screen. |> |> > |> |> >Not having an HP screen in my office means a long walk to the Computer |> |> >room to use the console to setup/delete users. |> |> > |> |> >Can obviously do this without SAM, its just that reconfig was nice to |> |> >use. |> |> > |> |> > Andy |> |> |> |> We added vt100 and wyse30 support for 8.0. Does this help ? |> |> |> |> Perry |> |> It helps, but what about an X11 xterm? I would have thought that was |> the next logical choice (of course I never studied logic :-). |> Many thanks to those who pointed out that in fact a XTERM is a vt100 emulation. Cheers, Alan -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- BNR Ottawa Disclaimer: "This is only my opinion" BITNET: awhitton@bnr.ca OR UUCP: ...uunet!bnrgate!forum!awhitton
vic@grep.co.uk (Victor Gavin) (05/24/91)
In article <1991May21.212906.3374@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au> logier@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au (Rob Logie) writes: >A X11 XTERM is VT100 compatiable. >-- >Rob Logie EMAIL: logier@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au It isn't true to say that's compatible. An Xterm is a pretty good emulation, but it isn't complete (or fast). vic -- Victor Gavin <vic@grep.co.uk||..!ukc!grep!vic||..!ukc!vision!grep!vic>
vic@grep.co.uk (Victor Gavin) (05/24/91)
In article <WAYNE.91May22092822@dsndata.uucp> wayne@dsndata.uucp (Wayne Schlitt) writes: >In article <5570642@hpfcdc.HP.COM> perry@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Perry Scott) writes: >> >When SAM replaced reconfig in HP-UX 7, I wish they had written it >> >to allow the "-m" option as in reconfig, so that you could run it >> >in line mode on a non-HP screen. >> We added vt100 and wyse30 support for 8.0. Does this help ? >what about just supporting terminfo and be done with it? The first problem is that HP decided to use a product called JAM (JYACC application manager) to write SAM. But JAM didn't support the HP term0 terminals very well, so HP found a way for it to do all that they wanted. But now they couldn't use ordinary terminals because they didn't have some of the facilities that they needed for SAM (like on screen softkeys). The second problem is that HP still doesn't have an up-to-date version of terminfo and curses to allow better support of softkeys and colours (amongst other things). They seem determined not to update to the facilities available under System V.3 The solution would be to have something like CUSTOM for SCO unix, which doesn't depend upon softkeys but uses lotus-style option selection bars. Other than that the rest is just form filling in. Of course SCO uses the FORMS/MENU stuff that comes with System V.3 which HP doesn't support/supply. Other than that I think SAM's pretty good except when it isn't and then it's a pain. vic