[comp.sys.hp] Do the Series 500 Workstations run HP BASIC/WS?

wehr@fmsrl7.UUCP (Bruce Wehr ) (06/27/91)

    I was just asked if HP 9000 Series 500 workstations can run HP
    Workstation BASIC, and I haven't a clue.

    Somebody just got a good deal on a used 500 for a project. The
    machine came with HP-UX 5.? on it. The proud new owner heard that
    the machine doesn't run RMB, and now he's worried. Personally, I'd
    be surprised if it didn't (I've been programming 300s since '85,
    and 500s were big brothers to the 300s then - of course, they're
    obsolete now). But, I know very little specific about the 500s.

    What are the major similarities/differences between 500s and 300s?
    Do 500s use DIO slots? Do they have built in HPIB?  Anybody have a
    spare set of 500 documentation laying around collecting dust?

    Thanks in advance for anything and everything you can offer.

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rjn@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland) (06/27/91)

re: > wehr@fmsrl7.UUCP (Bruce Wehr ) writes...>

>   I was just asked if HP 9000 Series 500 workstations can run HP
>   Workstation BASIC, and I haven't a clue.

Only the desktop Model 520 (product 9020A/B/C).  The 530, 540, 550 and 560
cannot run BASIC.

>   What are the major similarities/differences between 500s and 300s?

The 500 is more similar to the 9845, from which it was derived.  The 300 was
derived from the Series 200.  Different architectures altogether.

>   Do 500s use DIO slots?

No, they use CIO, like some Series 800.

> Do they have built in HPIB?

No, they use plug-in 27110A/B cards.

>   Anybody have a spare set of 500 documentation laying around collecting
>   dust?

Nope, but they are probably individually still orderable.  The software
is not.

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steve-t@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Steve Taylor) (06/28/91)

/comp.sys.hp/ wehr@fmsrl7.UUCP (Bruce Wehr ) /
|   I was just asked if HP 9000 Series 500 workstations can run HP
|   Workstation BASIC, and I haven't a clue.

The 9020 (aka 520) BASIC has a core command set which is _very_ close to
Series 200 BASIC 1.0 or 2.0.  Extensions differ greatly.  For example,
520 BASIC has capabilities for multitasking, some windowing, 3-D graphics,
etc.  It does not have any of the capabilities added to Series 300 BASIC
after release 3.0, say.  Both support hierarchical file systems, but 520B
uses SDF, while RMB uses HFS.  Both BASICs are very capable, but it's
unlikely that an extensive program from one will run on the other without
some changes.
						Regards, Steve taylor

NOT A STATEMENT, OFFICIAL OR OTHERWISE, OF THE HEWLETT-PACKARD COMPANY.

ken@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com (Kenneth M. Sumrall) (06/28/91)

>
>    I was just asked if HP 9000 Series 500 workstations can run HP
>    Workstation BASIC, and I haven't a clue.
>
RMB runs on the 500, but only on the model 520, also known as the 9020.

>    Somebody just got a good deal on a used 500 for a project. The
>    machine came with HP-UX 5.? on it. The proud new owner heard that
>    the machine doesn't run RMB, and now he's worried. Personally, I'd
>    be surprised if it didn't (I've been programming 300s since '85,
>    and 500s were big brothers to the 300s then - of course, they're
>    obsolete now). But, I know very little specific about the 500s.
>
>    What are the major similarities/differences between 500s and 300s?
>    Do 500s use DIO slots? Do they have built in HPIB?  Anybody have a
>    spare set of 500 documentation laying around collecting dust?
>
Similarities:  Both run HP-UX, both run RMB.
Differences:   Just about everything else.

The s500 uses the FOCUS stack for CPU, MEMORY, and IOP cards.  It uses CIO
slots for the rest of I/O.  No DIO slots.

The 550 has a builtin HP-IB port.  It also supports a graphics box that plugs
into the FOCUS stack.

I believe s500 documentation is still available.

The part number for RMB is 97050B.  I don't know if HP still sells it, though.

>    Thanks in advance for anything and everything you can offer.
>
Your welcome.

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