miket@masscomp.UUCP (01/23/87)
Does anyone know if the new 256K Memory expansion will be useable with an 80 column cartridge. I don't presently have either of these but am considering it. I assume the 80 column cartridge has the same address as any other cartridge and boots when the 64 is powered on(am i wrong?) I know the c64 is not an AMIGA/128/IBM but what I'm looking to do is 80 columns with the extra memory on a multi slot expansion board and , use them concurrently. Am I confused about what the 64 can do? or does this look like the two items can share resources. Mayby Fred Bowen could shed some light on this subject. Also to Fred what is the 128D, that is have seen mentioned. Thanks for any info. mike truax UUCP: {inhp4,seismo,decvax,}!masscomp!miket
fred@cbmvax.UUCP (01/26/87)
> Does anyone know if the new 256K Memory expansion will be useable with > an 80 column cartridge. > Also to Fred what is the 128D, that is have seen mentioned. > mike truax > UUCP: {inhp4,seismo,decvax,}!masscomp!miket Commodore does not sell either 80-column cards for the C64 or motherboards for extending the expansion port, so I cannot really tell you about memory problems or power requirements. This is one reason the 1764 does not pass the bus. I rather doubt you could do this without a hitch. But the real problem here is finding software to use such a combination of user add-ons. Only recently has there been software support for the C128, which has this stuff built in! For the price of the 1764 + motherboard + 80-column card, you'd come close to a C128. (You'd probably want to get an RGB monitor like the 1902 also, but you _could_ continue to use a 128 in either 40 or 80-column mode with a 170x... but offset the savings by the cost of an optometrist!) Sometime this spring, Commodore should begin selling the C128D model in the US (it has been sold in Europe and Canada for some time now). It looks alot like an Amiga, but with a 5.25" drive (actually, first things first- the Amiga looks like a 128D!). Has detached keyboard, fan (power supply is built in), etc. I prefer it, as it sits on my desk MUCH better. Oh yeah, I also told 'em to put in a full 64K of 80-column display memory, standard. I was pleased to see several nifty C128 software packages at CES- most of 'em even support the 1351 mouse and 17xx memory expanders, if present. If anyone has seen/heard/used a C128 mode package that is not simply a port of a C64 thing, I'd like to hear about it. And yup, I have seen a very early but functional version of GEOS for the 128, 80-column screen. Pardon my tendency to talk about C128 stuff in what started as a C64 posting. The 128 grew out of 64 questions like these- we answered them by building the stuff in, yet remaining as 64-like as possible. -- Fred Bowen uucp: {ihnp4|seismo|caip}!cbmvax!fred arpa: cbmvax!fred@seismo.css.GOV tele: 215 431-9100 Commodore Electronics, Ltd., 1200 Wilson Drive, West Chester, PA, 19380
fred@cbmvax.UUCP (01/26/87)
> Sometime this spring, Commodore should begin selling the C128D model in the > US (it has been sold in Europe and Canada for some time now). It looks > alot like an Amiga, but with a 5.25" drive (actually, first things first- > the Amiga looks like a 128D!). Has detached keyboard, fan (power supply is > built in), etc. I prefer it, as it sits on my desk MUCH better. Oh yeah, > I also told 'em to put in a full 64K of 80-column display memory, standard. Oh shoot. They took the fan out, so scratch that part. At least now it'll be quiet. So sorry. -- Fred Bowen uucp: {ihnp4|seismo|caip}!cbmvax!fred arpa: cbmvax!fred@seismo.css.GOV tele: 215 431-9100 Commodore Electronics, Ltd., 1200 Wilson Drive, West Chester, PA, 19380