tee@mtuxo.UUCP (T.EBERSOLE) (07/12/87)
I've recently purchased a C128 after a C64 "meltdown." The vt52 emulator I use supports 80 columns, but the 1701 monitor I have obviously can not sharply display the characters. I'd like to use a better emulator (vt100) and have less eyestrain, so I am looking for advice on what monitors I might consider. I've missed any discussions on the relative merits of various monitors for use with the C128. Is the 1902 the best choice? CMO advertises an Amiga 1080 to C128 adapter cable. Is the 1080 a better monitor than the 1902? Recent ads list the 1902 at costs of $250 to $290 and the 1080 at costs of $260 to $370, so I presume there is some added value to having a 1080. What about non-Commodore monitors (e.g., Amdek, NEC Magnavox, ...) in the $250 to $400 range? Any I should avoid or be attracted to? Any limitations (or added value over 1902) when using these with the C128? If this is one of those "beaten to death" topics, I would appreciate e-mail from anyone who has saved copies of previous discussions on monitors. Otherwise, respond to me or the net. I'll summarize and post any replies I've received, if there is sufficient interest. Thanks.
tee@mtuxo.UUCP (T.EBERSOLE) (07/12/87)
My mailer decided not to append my .signature. It's hard to get good help on the weekends. For those of you who wish to send me e-mail responses to my query for information on monitors to use with the C128, I've added my address. Thanks for your help. Tim Ebersole ...!ihnp4!mtuxo!tee (201) 957-3935 or 747-9094
elg@killer.UUCP (Eric Green) (07/15/87)
in article <199@mtuxo.UUCP>, tee@mtuxo.UUCP (T.EBERSOLE) says: > I've missed any discussions on the relative merits of various monitors > for use with the C128. Is the 1902 the best choice? Well, it DOES seem to be cheaper than most IBM-type monitors, and accepts all the signals that the C128 produces, including the composite signal. I think Magnavox also produces a similiar monitor (or maybe the same monitor in their own case :-), because a friend here has a non-Commodore monitor with that desirable feature (ability to use the 40 column output as well as the RGB output). > CMO advertises an > Amiga 1080 to C128 adapter cable. Is the 1080 a better monitor than > the 1902? To be brief: NO. Not for the C128, at least. The 1080 has analog RGB capabilities. But since the C128 only produces IBM-style TTL-level RGB signals with a "brightness" line, analog RGB is of no utility. > What about non-Commodore monitors (e.g., Amdek, NEC > Magnavox, ...) in the $250 to $400 range? Any I should avoid or > be attracted to? Any limitations (or added value over 1902) when using > these with the C128? Be sure that it will accept a color composite input as well as an RGB input. Otherwise, you won't be able to see 40-column text. If you just want to read 80 column text, you might just want to get a monochrome monitor... I'm typing this at a NAP amber-screen monitor that I got at Service Merchandise for $50. Finally found a use for that TV/Monitor switch-box that came with the computer -- ripped out the inductance coil, and use it to switch between 40 column and 80 column mode (after a brief trip to Radio Shack to outfit the box with another RCA input jack). Eric Green {ihnp4,cbosgd}!killer!elg elg@usl.CSNET
DISPATCH@NCSUVM.BITNET (07/16/87)
The one that is being sold now by Commodore for the 128, 64, and PC-10
is the 2002. The place here that sells commodore stuff is selling it
for $299.00. It is a pretty good monitor. The composite is surprisingly
sharp. I know of one person that is using it with an Apple II, and
is very pleased.
Hal
jamesv@hplsla.HP.COM (James Vasil) (08/07/87)
>> CMO advertises an >> Amiga 1080 to C128 adapter cable. Is the 1080 a better monitor than >> the 1902? >To be brief: NO. Not for the C128, at least. The 1080 has analog RGB >capabilities. But since the C128 only produces IBM-style TTL-level RGB >signals with a "brightness" line, analog RGB is of no utility. > I've just started looking for a monitor which I could use with both my C64 and with a Compac portable. Do I read this correctly to say that the 1902 would (w/ perhaps a custom cable) be useable with the PC? Has anyone out there actually done this? Thanks, James Vasil ihnp4!{hplabs|harpo}!hp-pcd!hplsla!jamesv
DISPATCH@NCSUVM.BITNET (08/10/87)
Commodore's 2002 monitor would work nicely. It has analog and digital RGB,
as well as composite. You should be able to find one discounted for less
that $300.00. I have personally hooked one up to a PC-10, which has one
of those "multi-mode" graphics cards, and run it as CGA. I have also hooked
it to a "pure" cga card. It was respecatable.
Hal
jamesv@hplsla.HP.COM (James Vasil) (08/14/87)
>Commodore's 2002 monitor would work nicely. It has analog and digital RGB, >as well as composite. You should be able to find one discounted for less >that $300.00. I have personally hooked one up to a PC-10, which has one >of those "multi-mode" graphics cards, and run it as CGA. I have also hooked >it to a "pure" cga card. It was respecatable. >Hal Thanks for the response, Hal. Do you (or anyone else) know whether or not the 2002 also has the "split" composite prefered for the C64 and the C128? James