thangol@merlin.unm.edu (Tsun Wong) (11/30/87)
Keywords:terminal emulator, vt100-128 Is anybody out there using the "vt100-128" terminal emulator that comes with the CBM modem/1200? "Common Sense" and "vt52-64" also come with the modem/1200, but I didn't use them because I wanted to work in the 80 column mode. I have been using the "vt100-128" to communicate with the Vaxen here, but I have not been able to use "vi", apparently "vt100-128" does not completely emulates the vt100. Has anyone run into the same problem? I have tried to write a termcap for the "vt100-128", but I was unsuccessful. Is there a working termcap for the "vt100-128" out there? If there is, would someone email a copy to me? Is there a public domain terminal emulator that will work in the C128 80 column mode with "vi"? Could someone send a copy to me? I am getting very tired of "ed". I am desperate! Any help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Tsun Wong thangol@merlin.unm.edu
dennisf@marque.mu.edu (Dennis Flaherty) (12/02/87)
In article <739@unmvax.unm.edu> thangol@merlin.UUCP (Tsun Wong) writes: > Is anybody out there using the "vt100-128" terminal emulator that comes with > the CBM modem/1200? I am, and I'm having problems, too. But I can help with some of yours. > > "Common Sense" and "vt52-64" also come with the modem/1200, but I didn't > use them because I wanted to work in the 80 column mode. Common Sense doesn't support 80 columns. I guess that discredits the title. For vt52-64, try typing CTRL-8. CTRL-4 switches back to 40 columns. > I have been using > the "vt100-128" to communicate with the Vaxen here, but I have not been able > to use "vi", apparently "vt100-128" does not completely emulates the vt100. I assume you explicitly inform the VAX that you have a vt100, rather than using either qterm or VMS's SET TERM/INQUIRE. But if you do, VT100-128 won't respond correctly to the inquiry. At least my copy doesn't.... > Is there a public domain terminal emulator that will work in the C128 80 column > mode with "vi"? Could someone send a copy to me? I am sure Dr Evil Labs would be glad to help you to a PD copy of kermit-65 for the C-64. Finally, you might have a bad copy of VT100-128. The copy that came with my 1670 was also buggy, and I even posted here about it a year ago. I am using a friend's copy that he got from his 1670, but that too has some bugs. Doesn't ANYBODY have a bug-free version of VT100-128? Is it legal for us to exchange copies of this software that we're supposed to have anyway? Dennis Flaherty Marquette University dennisf%marque@csd1.milw.wisc.edu USNail: 826 N. 20th St. uwvax!marque!dennisf Milwaukee, WI 53233
firebug@cup.portal.com (12/02/87)
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firebug@cup.portal.com (12/02/87)
Is anybody out there using the "vt100-128" terminal emulator that comes with the CBM modem/1200? "Common Sense" and "vt52-64" also come with the modem/1200, but I didn't use them because I wanted to work in the 80 column mode. I have been using the "vt100-128" to communicate with the Vaxen here, but I have not been able to use "vi", apparently "vt100-128" does not completely emulates the vt100. Has anyone run into the same problem? I have tried to write a termcap for the "vt100-128", but I was unsuccessful. Is there a working termcap for the "vt100-128" out there? If there is, would someone email a copy to me? Is there a public domain terminal emulator that will work in the C128 80 column mode with "vi"? Could someone send a copy to me? I am getting very tired of "ed". I am desperate! Any help will be appreciated. Asyou found out the vt 100 term with the modem doesnt support cursor addressing... there is a prgm out in the semi public domain on most major online systems.. I know for a fact its on Genie ... called micro vt 128 which supports the addressing needed here.. I am using i I use it just for coming here as the xmodem transfer and the stability of the buffer are suspect
rufsmith@uokmax.UUCP (12/02/87)
In article <739@unmvax.unm.edu> thangol@merlin.UUCP (Tsun Wong) writes: > "Common Sense" and "vt52-64" also come with the modem/1200, but I didn't >use them because I wanted to work in the 80 column mode. > >Tsun Wong >thangol@merlin.unm.edu Well, I thought I would toss in the information that vt52-64 has an 80-column mode. Unfortunately, this is no help to your vt100-128 woes, but then, I don't have my 128 in yet, and therefore haven't had the opportunity to help you there. _____________ Random of Amber / * THE * \ rufsmith@uokmax.UUCP /M O N O L I T H\ "I seem to be commenting on everything!" / * REVIEWS * \ ----------------------------------------- / * * * \ |The opinions stated herein are those of| / * * * \ |someone else. Hell, I sure don't claim| /_______________________\ |them. Really, they're likely nobody's.| !_______________________! -----------------------------------------
firebug@cup.portal.com.UUCP (12/04/87)
most of the vt 100 128 terms that came with the modems were buggy for whatever reason mine was also.... I am told also that the prgrm with the modem doesnt not support the addressable cursor needed here.... Micro Vt 128 supports the cursor but the xmodem transfer is hosed and also the prgrm lock up sometimes when printing data from the buffer but remember this si commodore machinery you're supposed to expect all of these problems (grin)
wjt@wp3b01.UUCP (Bill Taggart) (12/04/87)
I tried unsuccessfully to mail this ... Date: Thu, 3 Dec 87 15:20:20 EST From: uunet!seismo.CSS.GOV!MAILER-DAEMON (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable Message-Id: <8712032020.AA02225@seismo.CSS.GOV> To: <wp3b01!wjt> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- <<< 554 sendall: too many hops (17 max) 554 <merlin!thangol@unm.edu>... Service unavailable: Bad file number ----- Unsent message follows ----- Date: Tue, 1 Dec 87 20:13:39 EST Message-Id: <8712020113.AA23907@uunet.UU.NET> To: unmvax!merlin!thangol@uunet.UU.NET Subject: Re: Help wanted for vt100-128 Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm In-Reply-To: <739@unmvax.unm.edu> Organization: AT&T Communications In article <739@unmvax.unm.edu> thangol@merlin.UUCP (Tsun Wong) writes: >Is anybody out there using the "vt100-128" terminal emulator that comes with >the CBM modem/1200? > I experienced the same frustration you are now going through about two years ago. At the time I talked to Jeff Porter at CBM (the engineer responsible for the 1670 modem), he was sympathetic, but in the end was no help. I found a program called microVT, which is written by the same person that wrote vt100-128, works slightly better -- it is public domain. In the end I switched to using MEX in the CP/M mode. MEX is also public domain -- both programs are available on QuantumLink. MEX requires a slightly modified adm31 termcap/terminfo file. I have been using MEX for about twenty months, it is slow in handling backspacing and sometimes messes up the screen, but other than that it works well. If you would like a copy of my termcap or terminfo file for MEX, please let me know. Also, if you find a terminfo/termcap file that works with vt100-128 I would appreciate you sending me a copy. -- Bill Taggart {uunet | ihnp4}!wp3b01!wjt -- Bill Taggart {uunet | ihnp4}!wp3b01!wjt
elg@killer.UUCP (12/05/87)
In article <739@unmvax.unm.edu> thangol@merlin.UUCP (Tsun Wong) writes: >Is anybody out there using the "vt100-128" terminal emulator that comes with >the CBM modem/1200? > > "Common Sense" and "vt52-64" also come with the modem/1200, but I didn't >use them because I wanted to work in the 80 column mode. I have been using >the "vt100-128" to communicate with the Vaxen here, but I have not been able >to use "vi", apparently "vt100-128" does not completely emulates the vt100. Has I assume that your problem is that "vi" assumes that it's an 80 column terminal, and thus prints characters into the 80th column, which on a VT100 means the cursor stays on column 80, but on VT100-128 by default wraps around to the next line. You have two choices: Use Commodore-\ (English Pound symbol) to disable the linewrap, or else make your own termcap that says you have a 79 column terminal (in which case "vi" won't do such nasty things). Makes me homesick for Emacs, which doesn't make stupid assumptions about the position of the cursor after printing to the 80th column, like "vi" does. I do have a termcap for the VT100-128 program that enables both delete-character and insert-character functions (with minor modifications in VT100-128's translation tables, documented therein). Alas, it's currently in Lafayette, Louisiana, and this is Dallas, and USL's network connections are out of order until further notice due to phone line prblems.... -- Eric Green elg@usl.CSNET Snail Mail P.O. Box 92191 {cbosgd,ihnp4}!killer!elg Lafayette, LA 70509 Hello darkness my old friend, I've come to talk with you again....