knutsen@porthos.rutgers.edu (Mark Knutsen) (09/23/88)
A friend wants to emulate some popular terminal or other with a C64.
vt-52 or vt-100 will probably do. Can someone recommend a terminal
emulator, either public domain or commerical? Advance thanks!
--
Mark Knutsen, Esq. Student and Employee, Rutgers University
knutsen@rutgers.edu -or- {..}!rutgers!knutsentenbarge@silver.bacs.indiana.edu (09/23/88)
I think that there are many pd versions of the vt-100, vt-52 emulators for the 64. But, I have been using Kermit and I have to say that it is pretty complete. It is completly PD and is available from some BBS's or from Columbia University. Kermit is especially nice if you are using a mini or main that has a version of Kermit available. You will be able to transfer ascii files back and forth! I would have to suggest Kermit above all others. Kris Tenbarge tenbarge@silver.bacs.indiana.edu
A-N-Onymouse@cup.portal.com (09/26/88)
Re: Looking for terminal emulation s/w for C64 The CBM 1670 modem has terminal software packaged with it. Besides the Q-Link terminal, there is a VT52 for the 64 and VT52 & VT100 for the 128. A.N. Onymouse
berger@clio.las.uiuc.edu (09/28/88)
The later versions of Kermit provide very nice vt-100 and vt-52 emulation, and are free. mike berger, Univ. of Il. berger@clio.las.uiuc.edu
mike@pmafire.UUCP (mike caldwell) (09/29/88)
In article <16700023@clio> berger@clio.las.uiuc.edu writes: > >The later versions of Kermit provide very nice vt-100 and vt-52 >emulation, and are free. > > mike berger, Univ. of Il. > berger@clio.las.uiuc.edu Where do you get Kermit from? The only place I have seen is columbia and they want a tape, etc. Mike Caldwell
reese@pdnag1.uucp (0000-Don Reese(0000)) (09/29/88)
In article <16700023@clio> berger@clio.las.uiuc.edu writes: > >The later versions of Kermit provide very nice vt-100 and vt-52 >emulation, and are free. If this is so, why not upload them to your usenet site, uuencode them, and post them to this newsgroup? Yes this does require that both you and anyone wishing to extract the program have some method of binary file transfer, access to uudecode/uuencode and perhaps a lib routine to allow combining multiple files for easy transfer, but most of the people reading this newsgroup should either have these tools or have friends who have them. We had a big discussion on the creation of a binary newsgroup to go along with this discussion group, but I have a hard time remembering when the last time I saw a program posted for the Commodore (I believe the defeat of the binary newsgroup was deserved). I have since moved from the C64 to a PC/AT clone, but am still interested in this newsgroup (I like the C64, I still have a C64, but it is used mostly for games now and for entertain my 2 year old). Is anyone else out there interested in seeing programs posted? Can the C64 Kermit be legally posted to Usenet? Comments? Flames? -- Don Reese reese@pdn.UUCP | Eney Meeny, Jelly Beanie, Paradyne Corporation uunet!pdn!reese | the spirits are about to 8550 Ulmerton Road Mail Stop LF-207 | speak. - Bullwinkle Moose Largo, FL 34641-3893 Phone: (813) 530-8361 | -------------------------
jhballar@sactoh0.UUCP (Jon H. Ballard) (09/30/88)
In article <465@pmafire.UUCP>, mike@pmafire.UUCP (mike caldwell) writes: > Where do you get Kermit from? The only place I have seen is columbia > and they want a tape, etc. > I have Kermit 65 version 2.1 . I like it alot! It is probally one of the best terminal emulators I have seen! And I've been threw many! Kermit 2.1 will emulate vt52,vt100 with also vt102 escapes, and there is a Tektronixs 1040 (or is it 1014) graphic emulator with it. I got mine off of Quantumlink. Which is like Compuserve but only for Commodore. There should be many places that you can get it from. The docs for it is almost a disk full. But the program is only two file and a auto-boot for the C= 128. Try checking out the local bulliten boards. It might be a little big to send uucp... I dunno... I would have to see what I could do to the file if I were to upload it to a UNIX system and compress it and see how many blocks are left after that. I know there are many people asking for it that have Commdoroe and are working on UNIX systems and such. But I'll try and see what I can do. If it is small enough then I'll post a message here. -- _ | | \ UUCP e-mail: ..!{csusac,pacbell}!sactoh0!jhballar | |-< ..!{csusac,pacbell}!sactoh0!tree!asmodeus |__|on |_/allard ..!csusac!tree!asmodeus
jhballar@sactoh0.UUCP (Jon H. Ballard) (09/30/88)
> Kermit 2.1 will emulate vt52,vt100 with also vt102 escapes, and there is > a Tektronixs 1040 (or is it 1014) graphic emulator with it. I got Oops... Thats suppose to be 4010... not 1040..... dahhhhh -- _ | | \ UUCP e-mail: ..!{csusac,pacbell}!sactoh0!jhballar | |-< ..!{csusac,pacbell}!sactoh0!tree!asmodeus |__|on |_/allard ..!csusac!tree!asmodeus
seeley@dalcsug.UUCP (Geoff Seeley) (10/01/88)
In article <465@pmafire.UUCP>, mike@pmafire.UUCP (mike caldwell) writes: > In article <16700023@clio> berger@clio.las.uiuc.edu writes: > > > >The later versions of Kermit provide very nice vt-100 and vt-52 > >emulation, and are free. > > > Where do you get Kermit from? The only place I have seen is columbia > and they want a tape, etc. > > Mike Caldwell Last year (I say that because it might have changed) I was able to get Kermit v2.0 for the c64/128 from columbia. The only problem with my method is this: 1. You will need a VAX running VMS with network access to COLUMBIA. 2. If condition (1) is met, then you should be able to get an ASCII file containing a hex dump of Kermit 2.0 from KERMSRV@COLUMBIA (use the command 'send kermsrv@columbia' to request files.) 3. Now the tricky part. Some how you will need to get the file from the VAX to your c64. (I used an XMODEM program, as our VAX here has that capablity). If all goes well, you will have a SEQ file containing the hex dump. 4. This next part may be even more tricky (Hey ... you can't get nothing for free today without some work). The file you have on disk is only an ASCII dump. You will have to write a small basic program to read in the SEQ file, strip off the 'junk' (will be explained), and write the hex codes back to disk in the form of a PRG file. 5. I will now explain the format of the ASCII file (if you have gotten this far). This is what the first three lines of the ASCII file looks like: ;0F08010D080A009E2832303634290000000001F2 ;1808104CDC24000000000000F000FF0000000000000000010203040375 ;18082805060708090A0B0C0D0E0F101112131415161718191A1B1C01D4 In the first line: ;0F08010D080A009E2832303634290000000001F2 ^ ^ ^ | | | | | + Discard the last two hex bytes | + This is the start of the PRG '01' and 'F2'. these are checksum | file. The 1st two bytes are values for the line. You MUST strip | the load address of the file off the last two bytes for each line | ($0801 = 2049 decimal). Begin in the SEQ file. (i.e. don't write | writing to the PRG file these bytes to the PRG file.) | starting with these bytes. | + This is 'junk'; strip it off. Now for the second line: (this is the format for most of the lines in the ASCII file, but NOT all lines.) ;1808104CDC24000000000000F000FF0000000000000000010203040375 ^ ^ ^ | + Write the bytes from here to here ----------->| | + 'junk', discard it. + 'junk'- discard it. The ';180810' is an address field. These appear on MOST lines. There are 24 bytes in the above line that must be written. The last 4 digits in the address field gives the address of the next byte as it corresponds to the loading address of that byte in the 64. This is NOT an easy method for getting Kermit v2.0 from Columbia but it worked for me. If you want vt52 emulation with the ablity to send/receive files from mainframe/mini bad enough, then this could work for you. Hey... it's free...there's no tape-in-the-mail involved, there should be no charge... I hope this helps. -Geoff Seeley ---- (seeley@dalcsug.UUCP) -- +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ |Geoff Seeley | "My guitar IS my wife. She talks FOR me, not at me. | |Dalhousie University | She screams FOR me, not at me." - Stevie Ray Vaughan | |UUCP: dalcsug!seeley +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ Disclaimer: I watch too much Monty Python ok!!? ---
simon@ms.uky.edu (Simon Gales) (10/01/88)
Getting Kermit: Since not everyone has access to columbia or the patience to get it up and running, I too will help distribute kermit. Send a disk, disk mailer, and stamps, and I will send it back to you with the kermit program, the kermit.ini file, and the docs. The address is: Simon Gales 305 Lindenhurst drive, #1006 Lexington, KY 40509 Be sure to include the return address!!! A newer version of kermit may be coming soon, and I will distribute it as soon as I get it (shouldn't be too long after ray releases it). <--------------------------------------------------------------------------> <--- Simon Gales@University of Ky 254-9387/257-3597 ---> <--- [ simon@ms.uky.edu ] | [ simon@UKMA.BITNET ] ---> <-------------------------------------------------------------------------->
emjay@dasys1.UUCP (Michael J. Lavery) (10/02/88)
In article <465@pmafire.UUCP> mike@pmafire.UUCP (mike caldwell) writes: >In article <16700023@clio> berger@clio.las.uiuc.edu writes: >> >Where do you get Kermit from? The only place I have seen is columbia >and they want a tape, etc. > Commodore 64/128 Kermit 2.1(68), 6502 Assembler, Ray Moody, Purdue University, Apr. 88 (A:C64). New features include Tektronic 4010 emulation and inproved VT100 enulation. Also available on diskette for $5 ($10 with manual) from Dr. Evil Laboratories, P. O. Box 190, St. Paul, IN 47272 (USA only, Indiana residents add 5% Sales tax). From: Kermit News, Vol 3, Number 1, June 1988. -- Michael J. Lavery Big Electric Cat Public UNIX ..!cmcl2!phri!dasys1!emjay
jdj1574@uxf.cso.uiuc.edu (10/04/88)
Quick question: I'm using the vt100 emulator on my 64 right now... Doesn't the incredibly small type bother anyone? I think that the font could have been better chosen... Is there any way to change the font?