kykerr@k9.cs.orst.edu (Ronald Kyker) (01/13/89)
I'm having problems with the delete key in connect mode on kermit.
Outside of connect, the INST/DEL key will delete a character. In
connect mode, it sends a . The CLR HOME key seems to take over the
function in connect mode, but I'm getting used to using the wrong key
for backing up (text adventures are getting anoying). Is this a bug
or do I need to set a parameter somewhere? Thanks for the help!
- Ronfred@cbmvax.UUCP (Fred Bowen) (01/13/89)
In article <8231@orstcs.CS.ORST.EDU> kykerr@k9.cs.orst.edu (Ronald Kyker) writes: > > I'm having problems with the delete key in connect mode on kermit. > Outside of connect, the INST/DEL key will delete a character. In > connect mode, it sends a . The CLR HOME key seems to take over the > function in connect mode [...] That's the way it is supposed to work. Kermit redefines some of the keys to implement ASCII codes not normally available from the Commodore keyboard and to emulate a VT100 keyboard. The basic redefinitions are: <left arrow> escape <up arrow> caret ^ F1 or <shift => underscore _ F2 or <shift B.lb> bar | F3 or <shift @> back tic ` F4 or <shift up arrow> tilda ~ F5 or <shift +> lf brace { F6 or <shift -> rt brace } <B.lb> backslash \ <clr> ^L <home> ^H backspace <del> delete (rubout) <inst> break So, what you are seeing is typical for a system which interprets ^H as the 'backspace and erase' character. I don't know how easy it is to change this in Kermit (also depends upon the version you have, I imagine). You might also be able to change it on the other end- depending upon the system to which you connect (ask a system operator). -- -- Fred Bowen uucp: {uunet|rutgers|pyramid}!cbmvax!fred arpa: cbmvax!fred@uunet.uu.net tele: 215 431-9100 Commodore Electronics, Ltd., 1200 Wilson Drive, West Chester, PA, 19380
rickc@pogo.GPID.TEK.COM (Rick Clements) (01/14/89)
In article <8231@orstcs.CS.ORST.EDU> kykerr@k9.cs.orst.edu (Ronald Kyker) writes: } I'm having problems with the delete key in connect mode on kermit. } Outside of connect, the INST/DEL key will delete a character. In } connect mode, it sends a . The CLR HOME key seems to take over the } function in connect mode, but I'm getting used to using the wrong key } for backing up (text adventures are getting anoying). Is this a bug } or do I need to set a parameter somewhere? Thanks for the help! The problem is the delete vs back space problem. Some system use delete; other systems use back space. (Some programs are nice and take both.) Kermit (C64) sends a delete for the INST/DEL key. It sends a backspace for CLR/HOME. (Kermit on my PC sends a delete for backspace and a backspace for ^H; at least the C64 version gives you a key.) -- Rick Clements (RickC@pogo.GPID.TEK.COM)
jgreco@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Joseph E Greco) (01/14/89)
In article <8231@orstcs.CS.ORST.EDU> kykerr@k9.cs.orst.edu (Ronald Kyker) writes: > > I'm having problems with the delete key in connect mode on kermit. > Outside of connect, the INST/DEL key will delete a character. In > connect mode, it sends a . The CLR HOME key seems to take over the > function in connect mode, but I'm getting used to using the wrong key > for backing up (text adventures are getting anoying). Is this a bug > or do I need to set a parameter somewhere? Thanks for the help! > > - Ron Kermit has several delete keys. I believe "INST/DEL" is ASCII delete ($7F), while F7 is Backspace ($08). CLR/HOME may be another key, as you mention, but I don't know. Various systems respond in different ways. Some systems want a DEL code, others will accept backspace. I'm mildly used to using F7 here for a delete. In any case, they are different codes and I suspect your favorite UNIX system can be tuned to accept something that is acceptable to you. . JG -- jgreco@csd4.milw.wisc.edu Joe Greco at FidoNet 1:154/200 USnail: 9905 W Montana Ave PunterNet Node 30 or 31 West Allis, WI 53227-3329 "These aren't anybody's opinions." Voice: 414/321-6184 Data: 414/321-9287 (Happy Hacker's BBS)
seeley@dalcsug.UUCP (Geoff Seeley) (01/15/89)
In article <8231@orstcs.CS.ORST.EDU>, (Ronald Kyker) writes: > > I'm having problems with the delete key in connect mode on kermit. > Outside of connect, the INST/DEL key will delete a character. In > connect mode, it sends a . The CLR HOME key seems to take over the > function in connect mode, but I'm getting used to using the wrong key > for backing up (text adventures are getting anoying). Is this a bug > or do I need to set a parameter somewhere? Thanks for the help! It sounds like a problem with the system that you are connected to and not with Kermit. Not all machines have the same idea what a delete character is, so my guess is that Kermit is sending what it thinks is the delete character to the machine, but of course, the machine thinks it is some other character and sends back a '.'. This is only a guess though, you neglected to say what system you are connected to when you have these problems. If its a mainframe, then chances are you can set it up to interpret the delete key as such. Mail me if you need further help... -Geoff Seeley -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Geoff Seeley UUCP: dalcsug!seeley "My guitar IS my wife. She screams Dalhousie University BITN: csay0026@dalac FOR me and not AT me." Halifax, Nova Soctia BEST: any local bar. -Stevie Ray Vaughan =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=