[comp.sys.cbm] Which C64 disk drive?

warren@hp-col.HP.COM (Warren Tustin) (01/17/89)

I'm going to buy a second drive for my C64 (actually, replace my first
drive which has had many alignment problems) and was wondering if anyone
has an opinion on the following:

	1541-II (A dressed up 1541 w/o the power supply built in)
		 Can get for $175 mailorder. 
		 Is this better than the 1541 in reliability?

	Excellerator FSD2 (like the 1541II)
		 Can get for $148 mailorder.
		 Costs less than 1541II.  Is it fully compatible?
		 Why buy the 1541II instead of this?

 	1571     I may buy a 128 in the future and then I would have a 
		 compatible drive, although this is mainly a wish.
		 One mail order house said they have stopped making
		 the separate 1571.  Is this true?

	1581     Not an option.  I need a primary disk that will 
		 load all of my protected software.

Thanks much for any info you can give.  Right now I'm leaning toward the
excellerator (sp?) but am open to suggestions.

Warren@hp-col.hp.com

warren@hp-col.HP.COM (Warren Tustin) (01/25/89)

	Thanks for all of the reponses to my query about disk drives.
	I also talked to the manufacturer of the Excellerator FSD2
	to see what they had to say for their drive.  Below I have summed
	up what I found out.

	The 1571 is no longer being made as a separate drive.  It also had
	many early bugs and unless I really want to move up, it is probably
	not the best buy.

	The 1541-II is a 1541 with the supply separated.  It is more reliable
	than the 1541 but still has a belt drive and hence the head rattling,
	although because of the supply being moved, the head slippage probably
	is greatly reduced.

	The FSD-2 is not made by the same company as made the FSD-1 and has
	a direct drive mechanism.  It is also not the same as the Enhancer
	2000, which was not fully compatible with the 1541.  There is also
	another disk drive, the _____ 2001, (I don't remember) that is no
	longer sold here, since it used a 1571 ROM copy for the OS and so
	infringed on the Commodore patent.  Commodore took them to court to
	block sales.  According to the manufacturer of the FSD-2, they had
	a contest in England to give an AMIGA 500 system to anyone who could
	find a piece of software that would not load on the FSD-2 but would
	load on the 1541.  As far as he knew, no one did.  

	Since I am trying to get the best deal, I was able to find a mail
	order company (Computer Direct) with whom I have dealt in the past,
	and who could ship the FSD2 to my door for $153 with a 15 day trial.
	After I get it, which should be in a few days, I will try my software 
	and let you know how it loads.  Also the FSD2 has a 1 year guarantee
        and the 1541II does not.

	Sorry this is so long, but I thought others might be interested in
	this info.
					 Warren

fred@cbmvax.UUCP (Fred Bowen) (01/26/89)

In article <410004@hp-col.HP.COM> warren@hp-col.HP.COM (Warren Tustin) writes:
>	The 1571 is no longer being made as a separate drive.  It also had
>	many early bugs>

Not true.  It may not be on many shelves or buyer's lists but the 1571 is
still available.  The "early" bugs were corrected over two years ago- this
should not affect any decision you make today, unless you buy a used drive.

>	The 1541-II is a 1541 with the supply separated.  It is more reliable
>	than the 1541 but still has a belt drive and hence the head rattling

Whatever spins the disk is not responsible for whatever rattles the head.  The
problem with older 1541's is that the head banging caused by some software
protection schemes, coupled with the lack of a track zero sensor in the drive
and other mechanical misfeatures, caused alignment problems.  It is not a
problem on newer drives.

>	[1571 clone] used a 1571 ROM copy for the OS and so infringed on the
>	Commodore patent.  Commodore took them to court to block sales.

Commodore alleges these drives infringe on copyrights, not patents.  While
lost sales are important, there is more to be protected than sales.
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