quirk%citron.cs.clemson.edu@hubcap.clemson.edu (Christine Reynolds) (05/02/89)
A friend is trying to locate spare parts or software for a C-16.
I have never heard of this machine. Can anyone provide any info?
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phone: (803)656-{2639,3444}wanttaja@ssc-vax.UUCP (Ronald J Wanttaja) (05/03/89)
In article <5358@hubcap.clemson.edu>, quirk%citron.cs.clemson.edu@hubcap.clemson.edu (Christine Reynolds) writes: > A friend is trying to locate spare parts or software for a C-16. > I have never heard of this machine. Can anyone provide any info? I tried to Email this, but it bounced: --------------------------------------------------------------------- The C-16 was the "baby brother" of the PLUS/4. They were the first two Commodore computers completely compatible with each other. The only difference was that the PLUS/4 had a word processor, spreadsheet, and database in ROM (Very poor implementations, I might add) and had 60K of user memory (the C-16 had 12k). They had Basic 4.0 instead of the VIC/C-64's 2.0. The serial bus and the video outputs are the same as the VIC/C64/C128, but the user port is slightly different, and a unique joystick and cassette unit were used. Commercial C-64, etc. software is completely incompatible. Commodore published a few programs for them; very few third-party outlets picked up the gauntlet. One that did was Academy Software, PO Box 9403, San Rafael CA 94912. They published a C-16/PLUS-4 version of their instrument flight simulator. They might still have a few copies left. As for repairs and replacement parts, forget it. Actually, the C-16 keyboard has appeared on the surplus market, but I doubt if anyplace handles repairs. If your friend is gonna throw out his C-16, let me know... I have a small collection of old CBM machines, and my C-16 is inop. I'll pay for postage to ship it to me... | _|_ /(_)\ -------:==^==:------- [[| o |]] -----------------__________\_____/__________----------------- _ / \ _ T T/_______\T T Ron Wanttaja | | | | (ssc-vax!wanttaja) """ """
fred@cbmvax.UUCP (Fred Bowen) (05/03/89)
In article <2630@ssc-vax.UUCP> wanttaja@ssc-vax.UUCP (Ronald J Wanttaja) writes: >The C-16 was the "baby brother" of the PLUS/4. They were the first two >Commodore computers completely compatible with each other. The only >difference was that the PLUS/4 had a word processor, spreadsheet, and >database in ROM (Very poor implementations, I might add) and had 60K of user >memory (the C-16 had 12k). They had Basic 4.0 instead of the VIC/C-64's 2.0. No, the PLUS/4 and C16 were not completely compatible- the C16 lacks the 6551 ACIA built into the +4, and the C16 has only 16K bytes of RAM, not 64K. The BASIC version is 3.5, although it does includes most of the DOS commands. >The serial bus and the video outputs are the same as the VIC/C64/C128, but >the user port is slightly different, and a unique joystick and cassette >unit were used. The C16 does not even have a user port. The joysticks used on the C16/+4 are the same as usual, but the connectors were little round DIN things. Adaptors are easy to build. The dattasette was different, as was data on the tapes. >As for repairs and replacement parts, forget it. Actually, the C-16 >keyboard has appeared on the surplus market, but I doubt if anyplace >handles repairs. Last I heard, some IC parts and manuals were available from Commodore- call customer support for availability, cost, etc. -- -- Fred Bowen uucp: {uunet|rutgers|pyramid}!cbmvax!fred arpa: cbmvax!fred@uunet.uu.net tele: 215 431-9100 Commodore Electronics, Ltd., 1200 Wilson Drive, West Chester, PA, 19380
givler@cbmvax.UUCP (Greg Givler SUPPORT) (05/03/89)
In article <6748@cbmvax.UUCP> fred@cbmvax.UUCP (Fred Bowen) writes: >In article <2630@ssc-vax.UUCP> wanttaja@ssc-vax.UUCP (Ronald J Wanttaja) writes: >>The C-16 was the "baby brother" of the PLUS/4. >>As for repairs and replacement parts, forget it. Actually, the C-16 >>keyboard has appeared on the surplus market, but I doubt if anyplace >>handles repairs. > >Last I heard, some IC parts and manuals were available from Commodore- call >customer support for availability, cost, etc. >-- >-- >Fred Bowen The C-16 can still be repaired by Commodore Service centers if they want to work on them, but they are not obligated to. There is a company called TRI-MICRO in CA that has software and hardware for the PLUS4 and the C-16 Tri-Micro 714-549-1848 For catalog send $2.00 to: Plus Exchange P.O. Box 15907 Santa Ana, CA 92705 Greg -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Greg Givler Q-Link: Commodore Telecommunications Coordinator CompuServe: CBM/Support 76703,2047 Commodore Customer Support INTERNET: givler@cbmvax.uucp 215-436-4200 (Support Line) OR :::::: givler@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I usually have something clever to say.... but.... oh well..... ==============================================================================