acliu@skat.usc.edu (Alejandro Liu) (05/03/89)
In article <844@alzabo.UUCP> rob@alzabo.UUCP (Robert Hilchie) writes: >I understand there is a version of Kermit floating around which includes VT100 >emulation (I think it was even posted here once upon a time). If anybody has a >copy of it lying around, could you please email it to me? Thanks, This kind of posting usually appear everymonth in this newsgroup. I think we need a "Comp.sys.cbm.archives" to store stuff for the commodore, like Kermit or desterm. I think it should save everybody a lot of trouble by requesting the same files again and again and again and again... (BTW, why there is no "comp.binaries.cbm" or "comp.sources.cbm"?. Is this a conspiration against Commodore users or what?) acliu@skat.usc.edu (Alejandro Liu) (Simple .signature, $CHEAP$)
bowen@cs.Buffalo.EDU (Devon E Bowen) (05/03/89)
In article <16958@usc.edu> acliu@skat.usc.edu (Alejandro Liu) writes: >(BTW, why there is no "comp.binaries.cbm" or "comp.sources.cbm"?. Is this >a conspiration against Commodore users or what?) The creation of one of these groups was attempted last year and it failed. If I remember correctly, the primary reasons were that 1) The only thing that would be posted would be games and nothing useful. We all know that's the only use for a Commodore, right? 2) Binary groups in general are a waste. Never figured this one out since these same people did not propose removal of the other binary groups. 3) Commodore machines aren't as popular as others, so the extra bandwidth used by these groups would be wasted on only a few people. This argument is somewhat valid given that the average readership of binary groups as compared with the sys groups is usually only about 25%-30%. Given that, the expected readership of a cbm binary group would only be about 1700 (this group has a readership of about 6200). A readership like that would put the group very near the bottom of the newsgroup popularity list. So the solution at the time was just to post things here. If someone doesn't like it, they can stop carrying the group. Devon
izot@f171.n221.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Geoffrey Welsh) (05/03/89)
> From: bowen@cs.Buffalo.EDU (Devon E Bowen) > Message-ID: <5641@cs.Buffalo.EDU> > So the solution at the time was just to post things here. If someone > doesn't like it, they can stop carrying the group. ... or approve the application for comp.binaries.cbm... -- Geoffrey Welsh - via FidoNet node 1:221/162 UUCP: ...!watmath!isishq!171!izot Internet: izot@f171.n221.z1.FIDONET.ORG
trolfs@vax1.tcd.ie (Tommy) (05/03/89)
> (BTW, why there is no "comp.binaries.cbm" or "comp.sources.cbm"?. Is this > a conspiration against Commodore users or what?) I second the motion. There is something seriously amiss here.[no pun intended] Tommy $P-) : FLAMES HIGH LOW DO TURN-DIAL LOOP ; E-mail: trolfs@vax1.tcd.ie MAX_NUM CONSTANT SPELLING-MISTAKES :If you don't get a reply, let me know. Sometimes my mail enters the TZ: Some say I'm obsessed by Forth. Well I say I'm 0=. OK
mclek@dcatla.UUCP (Larry E. Kollar) (05/04/89)
In article <16958@usc.edu> acliu@skat.usc.edu (Alejandro Liu) writes: >(BTW, why there is no "comp.binaries.cbm" or "comp.sources.cbm"?. Is this >a conspiration against Commodore users or what?) No, just not enough people reading comp.sys.cbm to justify it. Someone could always create alt.binaries.cbm, but I wouldn't bet on a lot of sites carrying it. I *think* those blessed with FTP (not me) can get Kermit 2.2 that way, but I don't know of any other 8-bit CBM software getting archived these days. People have always been encouraged to post *source* here -- with one lone squawk about 2 yrs. ago when about 1/2 Meg of source got sent out all at once. That easy fix for that is to just dribble it out in small chunks for a few weeks (also makes it easier to mail pieces to people who don't get it). For binaries, there's no big problem with posting really popular things like Kermit & DesTerm -- as long as it doesn't happen that often. It's a matter of traffic vs. the number of readers; lots of traffic in a low-readership group like this one will surely attract the attention of the net.gods. Of course, there's always BBSes. With FidoNet gateways to Usenet in place, maybe a friendly sysop could set up an "archive" for software of interest. Or even better, one is already set up & we don't know about it.... -- Larry Kollar ...!gatech!dcatla!mclek If potatoes aren't computers, why are there potato chips and potato bugs?
drew@umbc3.UMBC.EDU (Drew Eisenhauer) (05/05/89)
In article <5641@cs.Buffalo.EDU> bowen@sunybcs.UUCP (Devon E Bowen) writes: >So the solution at the time was just to post things here. If someone doesn't >like it, they can stop carrying the group. Devon, you're being sarcastic here, right? Don't see any little :-)'s so I'm not sure... But for my own two senses wortth :-) I sa GO ARCHIVES, GO!!!!!!!!!!! -- Is not conscience a pair of breeches; though a cover for lewdness as well as nastiness, is easily slipt down for the service of both? -SWIFT internet: drew@umbc3.umbc.edu bitnet: eisenhauer@umbc
gpoy@vax5.CIT.CORNELL.EDU (05/11/89)
In article <18192@dcatla.UUCP> mclek@sunb.UUCP (Larry E. Kollar) writes: >I *think* those blessed with FTP (not me) can get Kermit 2.2 that way, >but I don't know of any other 8-bit CBM software getting archived these days. Actually, there is one FTP site I know of that archives a few Commodore 8-bit programs, namely, tolsun.oulu.fi (128.214.5.6). The directory is called c64. --------------------------+-------------------------------------------------- Sheldon Luberoff |"Hey Rocky! Watch me pull a rabbit out of a hat!" gpoy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu +---------------------------+ --Bullwinkle J. Moose {many stable sites}!cornell!vax5!gpoy | (This space for rent)