tc1ujk@sdcc3.ucsd.EDU ( Repo Man) (07/13/89)
I just started using my commodore 64 to connect to a Unix system. But, I need a good terminal program that can enable me to use most of the functions of a Vt terminal. Does anyone know of a terminal program that can emulate a vt terminal for a c-64? What are commodore users using now? I currently have a Punter protocol, ccgms, and a Vidtex program.. Suggestions are appreciated and helpful... Please send me mail or reply to this ad. Thanx, =:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=: Repo Man tc1ujk.sdcc3.ucsd.edu =:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:
aliu@castor.usc.edu (Alejandro Liu - "ArchLich of Navarrone") (07/13/89)
In article <4394@sdcc3.ucsd.EDU> tc1ujk@sdcc3.ucsd.EDU ( Repo Man) writes: >Does anyone know of a terminal >program that can emulate a vt terminal for a c-64? There are to my knowledge: 1) Kermit, available through FTP from a lot of sitest. I think you could try j.cc.purdue.edu supports Kermit (c-kermit) x-fers (slow), vt52/100 emulation in 40/80 cols. (not reliable on the 64 at 2400!) 2) Vtermite(s), couple of versions support 40/64/80 cols, and vt100 in 80 cols mode. Protocol: Xmodem. Can do 2400, with a little hacking, but you'd be "Computing on a prayer" (Crashes a lot) 3) Cmmon Sense: vt52, neat back-scrolling... (the 64 version) Even though CCGMS may be a nice term, it is NOT a mainframe term. My favorit non-mainframe term is Darkterm. BTW, Vtermite II THINK is available at 128.214.5.6 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anyone knows of a good term program for the 64 that supports Ymodem? (bat) I know Ed Parry has brought it to the Commodore World, but he's not releasing the source to public domain. (The routines will be available in future EBBS 64, and I thnk they are already available in Ebbs 128) What about a good vt52 or 100 emulator that can do 2400?
pwong@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Patrick Wong) (07/13/89)
In article <4355@merlin.usc.edu>, aliu@castor.usc.edu (Alejandro Liu - "ArchLich of Navarrone") writes: > 2) Vtermite(s), couple of versions support 40/64/80 cols, and vt100 in 80 > cols mode. > Protocol: Xmodem. Can do 2400, with a little hacking, but you'd > be "Computing on a prayer" (Crashes a lot) While VTERMITE claims to emulate vt100 in 80 cols. mode, as recent as yesterday when I used it to connect with a VMS machine, the emulation failed the vt test sequence sent out by the VMS machine after logon. Did anybody have the same problem ? Or just I did something wrong. Patrick pcw@squid.tn.cornell.edu pwong@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu mo8j@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
po87553@tut.fi (Ojala Pasi Juhani) (07/14/89)
In article <4394@sdcc3.ucsd.EDU> tc1ujk@sdcc3.ucsd.EDU ( Repo Man) writes: >.. >But, I need a good terminal program that can enable me to use most >of the functions of a Vt terminal. Does anyone know of a terminal >program that can emulate a vt terminal for a c-64? >What are commodore users using now? I use this PD-software called V'termite. This release is 1.1 but I also have a 1.2-version (or release 12..). This is a finnish software and contains: - Vt100-emulation - Keymacros - Xmodem protocol up/download - 40,64,80 chars/row (new version has proportional chars too) (vt100 only in 80chrs/row) - Terminal buffer My version seems to get stuck easily when using disk-operations, but anyway this is a great software... Ps. c64 + any drive (c128's 80chr-display isn't used (??)) -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Pasi Ojala Pasbox v2.6 Why does my signature keep changing?? po87553@tut.fi C64 forever Am I doing something wrong? <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
aliu@nunki.usc.edu (Alejandro Liu - "ArchLich of Navarrone") (07/14/89)
In article <8391@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> pwong@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Patrick Wong) writes: >While VTERMITE claims to emulate vt100 in 80 cols. mode, as recent as >yesterday when I used it to connect with a VMS machine, the emulation >failed the vt test sequence sent out by the VMS machine after logon. >Did anybody have the same problem ? Or just I did something wrong. > Well, it seems that vtermite does not send the correct vt100 id sequence (or doesn't send one at all.) It will also not support reverse, underline, etc. Kermit is available at 128.214.5.6 for whoever is interested. (alng with two versions of vtermite (9 and 12?) stored as 'vtermite' and 'wtermite".
brendan@gryphon.COM (Brendan Kehoe) (07/14/89)
>Anyone knows of a good term program for the 64 that supports Ymodem? (bat) >I know Ed Parry has brought it to the Commodore World, but he's not releasing >the source to public domain. (The routines will be available in future >EBBS 64, and I thnk they are already available in Ebbs 128) > >What about a good vt52 or 100 emulator that can do 2400? I have the source for ymodem for the 64...I can either send it directly to you or post it to the net, if there are enough people interested. As for emulation and 2400, I haven't seen a mix yet. There was an article in the Transactor a short while ago (1/2 issues ago) that had some c source for accurate 2400 on the 64...also Chris Smeets said in Febrary that he had some source that would do (theoretically) 4800, and mentioned that it could be hyped up to 9600...since, if my memory serves me right, I remember either Geoff or Matt talking about having gotten their 9600 from Smeets' source, that may have come to fruition. -- Brendan Kehoe brendan@gryphon.com | "Oh No! I forgot to say goodbye to my mind!" Just for the summer | - Abby Normal
pwong@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Patrick Wong) (07/14/89)
In article <17640@gryphon.COM>, brendan@gryphon.COM (Brendan Kehoe) writes: > > I have the source for ymodem for the 64...I can either send it directly to > you or post it to the net, if there are enough people interested. > -- > Brendan Kehoe > brendan@gryphon.com | "Oh No! I forgot to say goodbye to my mind!" > Just for the summer | - Abby Normal Oh, please post it !!! Patrick Wong pcw@squid.tn.cornell.edu pwong@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu mo8j@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
pwong@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Patrick Wong) (07/14/89)
In article <17640@gryphon.COM>, brendan@gryphon.COM (Brendan Kehoe) writes: > As for emulation and 2400, I haven't seen a mix yet. There was an article in > the Transactor a short while ago (1/2 issues ago) that had some c source for > accurate 2400 on the 64...also Chris Smeets said in Febrary that he had some > source that would do (theoretically) 4800, and mentioned that it could be > hyped up to 9600...since, if my memory serves me right, I remember either Geoff > Brendan Kehoe > brendan@gryphon.com | "Oh No! I forgot to say goodbye to my mind!" > Just for the summer | - Abby Normal There are programs that do 2400 on C64. But I think the tricky part is to find something that can do 2400 *AND* has a 80 col. mode for C64 (a perfect vt emulator, that is) at the same time ! Any comment ? Patrick pcw@squid.tn.cornell.edu DISCLAIMER: My opinions ? Or yours ?
aliu@nunki.usc.edu (Alejandro Liu - "ArchLich of Navarrone") (07/16/89)
> I have the source for ymodem for the 64...I can either send it directly to >you or post it to the net, if there are enough people interested. (Oops, I erased tthe name of the author who wrote this message, and I'm not gonna do everything all over again. But whoever wrote about having the source to Ymodem (c6), you know who you are!) Anyway, I''d really appreciate it if you sent me a copy of the source of Ymodem (ml, I assume?). There might be a lot of interest in you poosting it onn the net, Don't know... But I'd REALLY, REALLY want to get my hands on it! Thanx a lot! As for 2400 on the 64, never had any problems with it. The problem usually is with the 80-cols emulationn (software).... I got it to do 2400 on the 80 cols, but when it comes to scrolling off the screen, it usually overflows the rs-232 buffers, and you loose data. I heard of the 4800 ML for the 64 and the 9600 baud ML for the 128, but never actually seen it...
carus@cbnewsc.ATT.COM (bryce.w.carus) (07/17/89)
In article <17640@gryphon.COM>, brendan@gryphon.COM (Brendan Kehoe) writes: > I have the source for ymodem for the 64...I can either send it directly to > you or post it to the net, if there are enough people interested. Post it! This should be ideal for UNIX.
jbh@mibte.UUCP (James Harvey) (07/17/89)
In article <8403@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu>, pwong@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Patrick Wong) writes: > In article <17640@gryphon.COM>, brendan@gryphon.COM (Brendan Kehoe) writes: > > As for emulation and 2400, I haven't seen a mix yet. There was an article in > > the Transactor a short while ago (1/2 issues ago) that had some c source for > > accurate 2400 on the 64...also Chris Smeets said in Febrary that he had some > > source that would do (theoretically) 4800, and mentioned that it could be > > hyped up to 9600...since, if my memory serves me right, I remember either Geoff > > Brendan Kehoe > > brendan@gryphon.com | "Oh No! I forgot to say goodbye to my mind!" > > Just for the summer | - Abby Normal > > There are programs that do 2400 on C64. But I think the tricky > part is to find something that can do 2400 *AND* > has a 80 col. mode for C64 (a perfect vt emulator, that is) > at the same time ! Any comment ? > > > Patrick > pcw@squid.tn.cornell.edu > > DISCLAIMER: My opinions ? Or yours ? I think the latest version of Kermit will do this (but only on a 128?).... Seriously, you can make a silk purse out of a Sow's ear, but not a whole wardrobe. -- Jim Harvey | "Ask not for whom the bell Michigan Bell Telephone | tolls and you will only pay 29777 Telegraph | Station-to-Station rates." Southfield, Mich. 48034 | ulysses!gamma!mibte!jbh
acliu@skat.usc.edu (Alejandro Liu) (07/18/89)
In article <8403@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> pwong@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Patrick Wong) writes: >In article <17640@gryphon.COM>, brendan@gryphon.COM (Brendan Kehoe) writes: >> source that would do (theoretically) 4800, and mentioned that it could be >> hyped up to 9600...since, if my memory serves me right, I remember either Geoff > >There are programs that do 2400 on C64. But I think the tricky >part is to find something that can do 2400 *AND* >has a 80 col. mode for C64 (a perfect vt emulator, that is) >at the same time ! Any comment ? The maximun pratical speed for the C64 is(can?) only be 2400bd, because most (if not all) operations in the C64 are tuned for that. For example, when doint file transfers with any protocol, the computer expends quite some time doing disk access. Seems to me that the baud rate of the Serial Disk Port is around 3000bd, so stepping up to around 4800bd, in a file transfer, the speed improvement would be around 40% instead of a 100%, that you would think. The fact that the C64 can't do file access while reading the modem is the reason for this, and the reason why we cannot have a streamming protocol for the C64. Now, for a request. I have been writing a very simple term program (Just as an exercise) and I don't seem to be able to do 2400bd. First I got 300bd right. then to do 1200bd, I had to change the Non-Standard Bit timing register (661) and the Baud pre scaler value at 665. what I would want to know is do you only need to change this values to do 2400bd (And what are this values supposed to be?) and if not, what other things you need to do to get 2400bd? acliu@skat.usc.edu (Alejandro Liu) (Simple .signature, $CHEAP$)
ejp@abvax.icd.ab.com (Ed Prochak) (07/20/89)
I would be interested in seeing ymodem posted.
Does it support the commodore 1660 modem?
(that's the one not supported by kermit-64)
Thanks
ed
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