bwildasi@silver.bacs.indiana.edu (Ben Wildasin) (10/27/89)
I am very interested in getting a copy of Kermit 128. However, I've got a problem locating a copy of it. It's nowhere to be found on any local BBSs or on the RUNning Board, and I don't have a QuantunLink account. I know about maxwell@physics.purdue.edu and all the other ftp places that have it, but once I get the program down to my account, it isn't worth a whole heck of a lot without a Kermit program that I can use it to get it onto my 128... =) Does anyone know of a public-access (free) BBS anywhere that has Kermit 128? (BTW, I've heard that Kermit 64 supports bona fide, 640x200 80-column display when used on a 128. Is this true?) Thanks in advance, Ben Wildasin ***************************************************************************** Ben Wildasin * Mail: bwildasi@silver.bacs.indiana.edu * Phone: (812) 332-0245 ***************************************************************************** "Since there was once water on Mars, probably there is enough oxygen there to support human life." --Dan Quayle *****************************************************************************
f140023@pollux (Steven Bancroft) (10/27/89)
(Ben Wildasin) writes: >Does anyone know of a public-access (free) BBS anywhere that has Kermit 128? I'd love to know, as well, please! I've been searching in vain for weeks! Steven Bancroft University of California, Davis Internet smbancroft@ucdavis.edu BITNET smbancroft@ucdavis.BITNET UUCP [uunet | ucbvax]!ucdavis!smbancroft "Lakeside Park, willows in the breeze, Lakeside Park, so many memories..."
acliu@skat.usc.edu (Alejandro Liu) (10/27/89)
In article <28528@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> bwildasi@silver.bacs.indiana.edu (Ben Wildasin) writes: >I am very interested in getting a copy of Kermit 128. However, I've got >a problem locating a copy of it. It's nowhere to be found on any local >BBSs or on the RUNning Board, and I don't have a QuantunLink account. Well the reason why you can't find any Kermit 128 is because there is no 128 version of Kermit. (At least not yet) BUT Kermit-65 (65 meaning that was written for a 6502 based Computer) DOES support the C-128 80 column screen. That is, on your 128, you run kermit on the 64 mode, but you can use the 80 column screen. > >I know about maxwell@physics.purdue.edu and all the other ftp places that >have it, but once I get the program down to my account, it isn't worth a >whole heck of a lot without a Kermit program that I can use it to get it >onto my 128... =) > You don't really need Kermit to download the program. You can use something like Xmodem to do it too. (That is, if your system supports Xmodem) >Does anyone know of a public-access (free) BBS anywhere that has Kermit 128? >(BTW, I've heard that Kermit 64 supports bona fide, 640x200 80-column >display when used on a 128. Is this true?) This is indeed true, that is why there is no Kermit 128. Read above. Alejandro Liu acliu%skat@usc.edu acliu@skat.usc.edu (Simple .signature, $CHEAP$)
stokes@walt.cc.utexas.edu (Perry Stokes) (10/27/89)
...Yes, Kermit 64 has several options for 80 columns, including one called commodore 128, I hear that its for use with 128s that are connected to RGB moniters... I used this option in 64 mode while using a TV set and the output was the EXACT same as the 2 other 80 column options... Speaking of kermit, I have 2.1 and heard a lot of people here saying they have 2.2, whats 2.2 have that 2.1 doesnt? Perry Stokes - stokes@vondrake.cc.utexas.edu .
acliu@skat.usc.edu (Alejandro Liu) (10/27/89)
In article <20178@ut-emx.UUCP> stokes@walt.cc.utexas.edu (Perry Stokes) writes: >...Yes, Kermit 64 has several options for 80 columns, including one called >commodore 128, I hear that its for use with 128s that are connected to RGB >moniters... I used this option in 64 mode while using a TV set and the output >was the EXACT same as the 2 other 80 column options... Basicly, Kermit (No 64 or 128, all versions are for either one!) has 4 Display modes: 40 Column uses the 40 Column screen, works for 64 and 128 80 Column Uses the 40 column screen, but uses Hi-Res graphics to simulate 80 column output BI-Card Uses the 80 Column BI-Card driver, for 64 only 128-80 Column Uses the RGBI monitor, for 128 only. You could use the 128-80 Column mode in the 64, but you won't be able to see anything. Tough, I suspect that could be possible to connect an 8563 to the Expansion port and be able to drive a RGBI monitor from a C64. Kermit on the 128, works on 64 mode, but since the 80-Column Chip is still addresable from the 64 I/O block, you can still use the RGB monitor on Kermit. (in fact, you don't really need kermit to use an RGB monitor while in 64 mode, Compute Gazette, published a program called RGB kit, around 2 months ago, that would let you do this from Basic) > >Speaking of kermit, I have 2.1 and heard a lot of people here saying they have >2.2, whats 2.2 have that 2.1 doesnt? > Changes from 2.1 to 2.2: (Taken from the Sources for Kermit available to FTP from watsun.cc.columbia.edu: 128.59.39.2) Support for C128 fast mode and 2400bd <esc> "," visual bell fixed some bugs in speedscript protocol and keyscan In other words, there are minor bug fixes from 2.1 to 2.2, and if you are using a C128, now you have 2400bd support. If you are using a 64, you will see, very little changes. Alejandro Liu acliu%skat@usc.edu acliu@skat.usc.edu (Simple .signature, $CHEAP$)
williams@cs.umass.edu (10/29/89)
In article <20846@usc.edu>, acliu@skat.usc.edu (Alejandro Liu) writes... >Kermit on the 128, works on 64 mode, but since the 80-Column Chip is >still addresable from the 64 I/O block, you can still use the RGB >monitor on Kermit. (in fact, you don't really need kermit to use an So far in this discussion I haven't seen anyone mention another aspect of kermit versus other terminal emulators - the character set used. I assume that because it runs in 64 mode kermit uses the 64 character set - the funny looking one without real descenders where the characters do not have a uniform height. On a 64 you have no choice, but on a 128 the characters are much nicer in 128 mode! For this reason I have prefered vt100-128 from Q-link for use as a terminal emulator. The characters look very similar to a real vt100. The early version shipped with the modems had lots of problems, but the newer version is top-notch. It works great with EMACS, EDT, and everything else I've tried it with. Leo Pinard c/o williams@cs.umass.edu