izot@f171.n221.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Geoffrey Welsh) (04/13/89)
I've had a couple of people send me netmail reflecting interest in DesTerm
128, our 9600 bps VT-100 terminal program. The UUENCODE of the distribution
archive is 68K; would there be an interest in my posting it here? (I don't even
know if comp.binaries.cbm exists and, if it does, I don't have access to it at
the moment).
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Internet: izot@f171.n221.z1.FIDONET.ORGfireman@tippy.uucp (04/14/89)
There is no BIN.CBM so don't worry about that. I don't think there would
be a problem with posting it, it would save the time and trouble for everyon
if you sent it by request... Anytyway, SCI.SHUTTLE regularly gets 60-120K
messages so I don't think this one would "overload" the system.
Rob Dale - tippy!fireman@newton.physics.purdue.edumat@emcard.UUCP (W Mat Waites) (04/14/89)
In article <2036.24441CED@isishq.FIDONET.ORG> izot@f171.n221.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Geoffrey Welsh) writes: > > I've had a couple of people send me netmail reflecting interest in DesTerm >128, our 9600 bps VT-100 terminal program. The UUENCODE of the distribution >archive is 68K; would there be an interest in my posting it here? (I don't even >know if comp.binaries.cbm exists and, if it does, I don't have access to it at >the moment). >-- > Geoffrey Welsh - via FidoNet node 1:221/162 There is no place for binaries..... Post it here!!! That's my vote anyway. Mat -- W Mat Waites | Oh, I used to be disgusted, but now I'm just amused. gatech!emcard!mat | Since their wings got rusted, you know the angels 8-5 ET: (404) 727-7197 | wanna wear my red shoes --E. Costello
ecarroll@csvax1.cs.tcd.ie (Eddy Carroll) (04/16/89)
In article <2036.24441CED@isishq.FIDONET.ORG>, izot@f171.n221.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Geoffrey Welsh) writes: > I've had a couple of people send me netmail reflecting interest in DesTerm > 128, our 9600 bps VT-100 terminal program. The UUENCODE of the distribution > archive is 68K;would there be an interest in my posting it here? (I don't > even know if comp.binaries.cbm exists and, if it does, I don't have access > it at the moment). I'd be very interested. If you end up not posting it, could you possibly send me a copy? I have several friends here that would also like to see it. -- Eddy Carroll ----* Genuine MUD Wizard | "You haven't lived until INTER: ecarroll@cs.tcd.ie | until you've died in UUCP: {..uunet}!mcvax!ukc!cs.tcd.ie!csvax1!ecarroll | MUD!" - Richard Bartle
simon@ms.uky.edu (G. Simon Gales) (11/10/89)
Does anyone know of a good monitor that can handle the 50 line mode used
in DesTerm-128? I tried it on a $600 MultiSync that I use for my AT, and
it jittered all over the place (and it has a _good_ cable!)
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{rutgers, uunet}!ukma!simon | - Riker, ST:TNGdjn341@uxf.cso.uiuc.edu (11/16/89)
> /* Written 8:21 pm Nov 9, 1989 by simon@ms.uky.edu in uxf.cso.uiuc.edu:comp.sys.cbm */ /* ---------- "Desterm 128" ---------- */ > Does anyone know of a good monitor that can handle the 50 line mode used > in DesTerm-128? I tried it on a $600 MultiSync that I use for my AT, and > it jittered all over the place (and it has a _good_ cable!) Well, I don't know if a good monitor will make that much of a difference, considering that it trying to cram 50 lines into the VDC's 200 vertical pixel resolution. That leaves about 4 pixels for vertical resolution which won't be that clear anyway. The best way (that I found) to stop jittering is to expertiment with the color combinations to get a bright enough, yet stable picture. Red on black & dark grey on black work pretty well for me. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | djn341@uxf.cso.uiuc.edu =======> Dan Nix | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
phoenix@ms.uky.edu (R'ykandar Korra'ti) (11/17/89)
In article <46400044@uxf.cso.uiuc.edu> djn341@uxf.cso.uiuc.edu writes: >Well, > I don't know if a good monitor will make that much of a difference, >considering that it trying to cram 50 lines into the VDC's 200 vertical pixel >resolution. Um; I don't think so. It puts the VDC into interlace mode, wherein you have 400 lines of resolution. That's still 8 pixels vertical per character. A higher-persistance monitor capable of dealing with an interlaced signal would solve the problem right away. I think Commodore's is called the A2002 (don't quote me on that) and it's manufactured for the Amiga. It's a high- persistance colour monitor and the results, I've been told from people who have them, are quite nice. BTW, do not assume that a high-priced multiscan will like interlaced video modes. Many very specifically do NOT. Make sure that the one you buy likes interlace - the Mitsubiti Diamondscan comes to mind as a good choice. Many multisync monitors see the difference in vertical retrace times as being an error on the part of the display card and "correct" it for you - thus landing the second set of lines right on top of the first. This "feature" is great if you've got a cruddy display card; terrable if you use interlaced video. -- | R'ykandar Korra'ti, Editor, LOW ORBIT | phoenix@ms.uky.edu | CIS 72406,370 | | Elfinkind, Unite! | phoenix@ukma.bitnet | PLink: Skywise | QLink: Bearclaw |
mdinn@ac.dal.ca (11/18/89)
> /* Written 8:21 pm Nov 9, 1989 by simon@ms.uky.edu in uxf.cso.uiuc.edu:comp.sys.cbm */ > /* ---------- "Desterm 128" ---------- */ > Does anyone know of a good monitor that can handle the 50 line mode used > in DesTerm-128? I tried it on a $600 MultiSync that I use for my AT, and > it jittered all over the place (and it has a _good_ cable!) Suprisingly, I've found my best results on an Apple /// monitor. It's a green-screen monitor, and doesn't flicker (well, not much, anyway). Also, the VDC doesn't go to 4 pixels per character, I believe it goes to interlace mode (yes, I believe it does support interlacing). Hope this helps! Michael Dinn MDINN@AC.DAL.CA
djn341@uxf.cso.uiuc.edu (11/18/89)
Oops!!!! Stupid oversite on my part. Sorry. djn341@uxf.cso.uiuc.edu
ksk@well.UUCP (Kianusch Sayah-Karadji) (11/19/89)
In article <46400044@uxf.cso.uiuc.edu> djn341@uxf.cso.uiuc.edu writes: > > I don't know if a good monitor will make that much of a difference, >considering that it trying to cram 50 lines into the VDC's 200 vertical pixel >resolution. That leaves about 4 pixels for vertical resolution which won't >be that clear anyway. [...] Hmm... That's not correct... The way I understand it, the VDC IS able to do 400 vertical pixel-resolution... So in 50 line-res, screen does have 8 pixels! There are even ways to get a 720x700 hi res screen (in interlace)!!! ...so the problem is not the chip. Must be something else. Kianusch kianusch@unicom
acliu@skat.usc.edu (Alex C. Liu) (11/19/89)
In article <14617@well.UUCP> kianusch@unicom.UUCP (Kianusch Sayah-Karadji) writes: >In article <46400044@uxf.cso.uiuc.edu> djn341@uxf.cso.uiuc.edu writes: >> I don't know if a good monitor will make that much of a difference, >>considering that it trying to cram 50 lines into the VDC's 200 vertical pixel >>resolution. That leaves about 4 pixels for vertical resolution which won't >>be that clear anyway. [...] >Hmm... That's not correct... >The way I understand it, the VDC IS able to do 400 vertical pixel-resolution... >So in 50 line-res, screen does have 8 pixels! > >There are even ways to get a 720x700 hi res screen (in interlace)!!! I think it is nobody's fault. The VDC chip to achieve that high resolution uses Interlace mode, meaning, that instead of sending the same raster image every 1/60s, it alternately sends odd and even fields of the raster image, with one of them shifted 1/2 raster. So it actualy is refreshing the screen at 1/30 s rate. In some cases this will not be enough. I think the Amiga, when uses interlace mode, also has this flickering. With, the amiga you can get a flicker fixer, but with the 128, you will either have to buy a High persistance monitor, or make a good selection of colors to reduce flickering... --- Alex C. Liu acliu%skat@usc.edu acliu@skat.usc.edu (Simple .signature, $CHEAP$)
hcobb@walt.cc.utexas.edu (Henry J. Cobb) (11/19/89)
The interlace mode from the 128 is being 'corrected' by the multi-sync monitor to a 200-line mode with lots of flicker. If you want to push the display a ways, without too much flicker, you should get a cheap monochrome monitor. I use the Magnavox CM80 (100$ at Sears), with good results. Henry J. Cobb hcobb@walt.cc.utexas.edu