tobias@dtrc.dt.navy.mil (Tobias) (05/25/90)
My 8 year old C64 finally bit the dust. I think it's a faulty chip
but who knows? I have two questions:
1) Am I correct in assuming that it probably wouldn't be cost effective
to get it repaired (given how cheap they are to buy new, relatively
speaking)? and
2) What is a good source for new ones? I checked at ToysR Us (which
shows you how low my computer literacy is!) and all they sell is a C64
package inc the disc drive (the one I have is okay and I don't need
another one). The computer places all seem to sell IBMs, Apples, IBM &
Apple clones, etc. but no Commodore 64s.
The C64 is used by my kids to play games on, and since I have quite
a bit of software for it (games), I'd rather get another C64 instead
of starting all over with something else. Thanks in advance for your
help.
Stevejar@hogbbs.FidoNet.Org (Thet Hegreathahaha) (05/26/90)
Well, first of all, DON'T buy a NEW C-64 (this is just my [and sever
others in my area] opinion). The sound and video chip has been combined
itno a single chip, thus causing bad effects in both areas. In sound,
for games it will be fine, but for anything with speech, chances are
you won't be able to understand it, or if you can, it certianly won't
be clear. (A perfect example of this is Jordan & Burd go One on
One...the speech ISN'T THERE when played on a 64C, but sounds great on
a 64...). For the video, many programs which do many things at one time
(music, sprites, other stuff), you will commonly find a bunch of dots
filling the boarder...looks neat at first, but after 80 programs of
this, you'll find it rather annoying... My suggestion- eather buy a
used one, or make sure that the one you're buying doesn't have these
adverse effects. Because of the fact that your computer has been around
for 8 years, chances are that if you get it fixed now, it won7t last
long. I have both a 64 (not a new one) and a 128 for sale...the 128 I
would like $140-160 for, and the 64 I would like $65-75 for (the 64 has
almost all new chips recently installed). If you want eather of them,
give me a call (collect will do) at (814) 359-3024, or send me mail
here.
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Internet: jar@hogbbs.FidoNet.Orgchardros@csli.Stanford.EDU (Doug Gibson) (05/26/90)
The same thing happened to my 6 year old C64 about a year ago, and the MAXIMUM cost (to replace the entire motherboard) quoted to me was about $70. So it probably is cost-effective, at least if you can find a good service shop (the first one I tried couldn't figure out what was wrong). -Doug Gibson chardros@csli.stanford.edu Undergraduate Mutant Quantum Chemists - heroes in a closed shell
jgreco@archimedes.math.uwm.edu (Joe Greco) (05/29/90)
In comp.sys.cbm article <348.265E0FC6@hogbbs.FidoNet.Org>, jar@hogbbs.FidoNet.Org (Thet Hegreathahaha) wrote: :for games it will be fine, but for anything with speech, chances are :you won't be able to understand it, or if you can, it certianly won't :be clear. (A perfect example of this is Jordan & Burd go One on :One...the speech ISN'T THERE when played on a 64C, but sounds great on This is a testament to Commodore's chip design dep't - the SID has been redesigned somewhat to eliminate the annoying pops generated by changing volume settings. Programs which used this undocumented "feature" - popping - get exactly what they deserve. Flaming an improvement in the hardware isn't very bright. We don't get loads of these; I'll take what I can get. :-) :(music, sprites, other stuff), you will commonly find a bunch of dots :filling the boarder...looks neat at first, but after 80 programs of :this, you'll find it rather annoying... My suggestion- eather buy a Never seen this. Huh. Commodore, have any comment? ... Joe
comcheck@ac.dal.ca (05/30/90)
In article <4186@uwm.edu>, jgreco@archimedes.math.uwm.edu (Joe Greco) writes: > In comp.sys.cbm article <348.265E0FC6@hogbbs.FidoNet.Org>, jar@hogbbs.FidoNet.Org (Thet Hegreathahaha) wrote: > :for games it will be fine, but for anything with speech, chances are > :you won't be able to understand it, or if you can, it certianly won't > :be clear. (A perfect example of this is Jordan & Burd go One on > :One...the speech ISN'T THERE when played on a 64C, but sounds great on > > > :(music, sprites, other stuff), you will commonly find a bunch of dots > :filling the boarder...looks neat at first, but after 80 programs of > :this, you'll find it rather annoying... My suggestion- eather buy a > I have never seen this problem... and with regards to the sound chip, my 64C plays music AND digis better than my 64 ever did... maybe you just had some problems... and every 64C I know of works better than the old 64...
kai@tub.UUCP (Kai Rannenberg) (05/31/90)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Make a 1570/1 Floppy read 360K-IBM-PC-Format Summary: Expires: References: <348.265E0FC6@hogbbs.FidoNet.Org> <4186@uwm.edu> Sender: Reply-To: kai@tub.UUCP (Kai Rannenberg) Followup-To: Distribution: Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Keywords: Hi A friend of mine has got a Commodore 128 with a 1570 and a 1571 Floppy. He wants to make the Floppy read IBM-PC-360K-Diskettes. There is a special command for the 1570/1 called Query Disk Format, which should be placed into the RAM of the 1570/1. He experimented with the Memory-Write and the Memory-Execute Commands to place and run the binary code of the Query Disk Format command, but till now it didn't work. Is there anybody on the net with experience in this topic or anybody who knows about some Software to make a 1570/1 read 360K-Diskettes? Please send a mail to me or phone me (I call back). Thanks in advance Kai Rannenberg Path: | Snail Mail: | ...!pyramid!tub!kai (world) | Technische Universitaet Berlin ...!unido!tub!kai (Europe only) | Sekretariat FR 5-10 | Franklinstr. 28/29 Phone: (+49 30) 314-73499 | D 1000 Berlin 10, W.Germany | Phone: (+49 30) 314-73420