[comp.sys.cbm] FTP and a 128

wlj1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Wayne L Jebian) (07/20/90)

I have in my possession a Unix manual and checkout FTP and discovered that
yes, Columbia does have FTP access or whatever here <in other words, I typed
FTP and wasn't told "not found" or anything like that>
what I wanna know is, using desterm 1.02, how can I use FTP to any advantage?
Can someone email me a program <say desterm 2.0 hint hint :) when its out> 
and using FTP, I can Xfer it to my 128 in an executable PRG file?
If so, would someone be willing to at least show me what I'd need to do?
Thanks very much.

<email would probably be easier>
oh 1 more thing, can I use FTP when I see "programs" on alt.sex.pictures?

-Mark Dolengo

jgreco@archimedes.math.uwm.edu (Joe Greco) (07/22/90)

In comp.sys.cbm article <1990Jul19.173730.16487@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>, wlj1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Wayne L Jebian) wrote:
:I have in my possession a Unix manual and checkout FTP and discovered that
:yes, Columbia does have FTP access or whatever here <in other words, I typed
:FTP and wasn't told "not found" or anything like that>
:what I wanna know is, using desterm 1.02, how can I use FTP to any advantage?
:Can someone email me a program <say desterm 2.0 hint hint :) when its out> 
:and using FTP, I can Xfer it to my 128 in an executable PRG file?
:If so, would someone be willing to at least show me what I'd need to do?
:Thanks very much.

FTP is a host-to-host transfer protocol.  You need nothing special to use it
- you don't even need a computer (a dumb terminal works fine).  On the down
side, FTP won't transfer files from a host to your C64 (or IBM or Amiga).
It's strictly host to host.  Getting the files from a host to your 64 is a
job for Kermit or Xmodem or something.

FTP's a little complex to explain in one sitting.  So I won't try.  However,
I'll cover a little ground on how to use FTP a little more effectively.

One relatively obscure feature of FTP is the get-to-destination file
command.  The standard command to get a file from a remote host is:

get filename

There is an alternative,

get remotefile localfile

and a USEFUL variation,

get remotefile |localcommand

which causes remotefile to be ftp'd and directly fed into localcommand's
standard input.

get 00.Index |more

is a very useful command.  Even more so, since I use 'less'  :-)

Now, it's also possible to make some file transfer programs (like Kermit and
Xmodem) to accept input from standard input.  This means it's possible for
an enterprising hacker to ftp directly from a remote host to your
PC/terminal.

:oh 1 more thing, can I use FTP when I see "programs" on alt.sex.pictures?

No need to.  Save the articles, paste them together, decode  them (not sure
how they might be encoded), then use your favorite protocol to download them
(Kermit, Xmodem, etc).  You'd only need FTP if they were on some other
machine on the network.

:-Mark Dolengo

... Joe

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