[comp.sys.cbm] DesTerm 128 v2.00

dflahert@tagore.helios.nd.edu (Dennis Flaherty) (09/11/90)

In article <1990Sep9.011304.1616@uoft02.utoledo.edu> grx0644@uoft02.utoledo.edu (Tony Schliesser) writes:
> In article <57272@microsoft.UUCP>, kentsu@microsoft.UUCP (Kent SULLIVAN) writes:
> > 
> > Instead, he posted the files to the Oswego site (129.3.1.1), in the
> > "pub/c128/telecom" and "pub/c64/telecom" directories, respectively.
> 
> I just downloaded the new Desterm and it looks very hopeful!!! So far, so
> good!

I've downloaded and built DesTerm now myself (the $25 shareware check is 
in the mail), and it's a very capable vt102 emulator.  I had a lot of
problems with the bugs in vt100-128 (which came with my 1670 modem),
but when I'd use kermit, I'd miss having programmable function keys
and a decent font.

DesTerm has an excellent font, online menus, a dial directory, nine
definable function keys for EACH entry in the dial directory, script
(autologon) files for each, color (colour in this case!), true baud-rate
support upto 9600bps, x/x1k/ymodem/punter support, video interlace for
50-52 screen rows, a buffer, RAMdisk support for 17xx, overlays,
and lots of savable options.  And music.  

The program works surprisingly well for its size, but I've found
a minor bug (my CRC checks were ok when I unpacked it).
When the emulator is run initially, and whenever a
menu is left, the emulator is placed in vt100 "bold" (escape
sequence ^[[1m) mode.  Many applications (such as rn and more/less)
put some characters in reverse video (^[[7m) and reset with ^[[m.
This turns off the bold mode as well, making the following
characters darker than what the user was used to.  But I can
certainly live with this!

Thanks!
--
Dennis Flaherty              dennisf@ndcvx.cc.nd.edu
U of Notre Dame      Dept. of Electrical Engineering
  Notre Dame *tells* me what opinions to have.

dflahert@tagore.helios.nd.edu (Dennis Flaherty) (09/12/90)

In article <414@news.nd.edu> I wrote:
> When the emulator is run initially, and whenever a
> menu is left, the emulator is placed in vt100 "bold" (escape
> sequence ^[[1m) mode.  Many applications (such as rn and more/less)
> put some characters in reverse video (^[[7m) and reset with ^[[m.
> This turns off the bold mode as well, making the following
> characters darker than what the user was used to.

I've found out the cause of this problem, so hopefully by
posting I'll save someone else some trouble.

In the User Environment menu, Char Colour can be selected to
choose the color of the characters in normal terminal-mode
communication.  The choices are black, blue, green, cyan, red,
purple, brown, and grey, and the "light" version of each of these.
Since all of these colors are supported by the 80-column video
chip, I had thought that "light cyan" would simply be color #4.
Not so.  Instead of using color #4, DesTerm uses #12, dark cyan,
and puts the emulator in "bold" mode.  As soon as it receives
the ^[[m sequence, the character color changes to dark cyan.
I suspect that the rest of the "light" colors are done this
same way.

So my recommendation is, unless this is fixed in a next release,
that the "light" versions of the colors should not be used for
character color, since they aren't distinct colors at all.

Another tip: if you find that by moving the cursor left, over
characters in applications like vi, causes characters to
misteriously disappear, change the backspace mode to
non-destructive.  In most operating systems, the destructive
behavior of the delete key in a command line is due to the
mainframe sending a backspace-space-backspace sequence, not
because the local terminal makes backspaces destructive.

I hope there's a patch to keep the program from begging 
for money all the time.
--
Dennis Flaherty              dennisf@ndcvx.cc.nd.edu
U of Notre Dame      Dept. of Electrical Engineering
  Notre Dame *tells* me what opinions to have.

lybeck@plains.NoDak.edu (Eric Lybeck) (09/13/90)

How do I use the cursor keys and mouse with vi? (or emacs, jove).          


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