synth@yenta.alb.nm.us (Synth F. Oberheim) (12/08/90)
I have a C64 with a 1670 modem (@1200 baud) emulating a VT52 in simulated-
80-columns. Very frustrating, for the vt52 program can be finicky. The
fact that it's 1200 baud adds to the stress.
I want to go 2400 baud, but am afraid that I won't be able to find C64
software that emulates a VT (VT100, preferably) AND does a graphics-
simulated 80 columns. Plus I understand that a serial interface is
at least $100 on top of the 2400 baud modem's $100.
Is there software available for the 64 that works with a 2400 baud
(Hayes-compatible) modem, emulates a VT100, and simulates 80 columns?
Or should I just get ahold of an actual VT100 terminal? (Great --
yet another appendage to an already cramped room :-)
Advice, please! Email replies to:
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"It's not even funny ..."rknop@nntp-server.caltech.edu (Robert Andrew Knop) (12/09/90)
synth@yenta.alb.nm.us (Synth F. Oberheim) writes: >I want to go 2400 baud, but am afraid that I won't be able to find C64 >software that emulates a VT (VT100, preferably) AND does a graphics- >simulated 80 columns. Plus I understand that a serial interface is >at least $100 on top of the 2400 baud modem's $100. Actually, a standard RS-232 interface is not that bad. Software Support Internatinal advertises "Supra's Peak Modem Interface" for $27.95, although it is not clear to me from the ad if it runs at 2400 baud. I've got the Omnitronix Delux RS-232 interface (I used it with a direct connection to a compus mainframe network back at Harvey Mudd), which worked great, should run with any standard modem or printer, at any baud rate (perhaps limited at 9600). I paid something like $30 for it. >Is there software available for the 64 that works with a 2400 baud >(Hayes-compatible) modem, emulates a VT100, and simulates 80 columns? There's always Kermit v2.2. This lets you run in 40 columns, 80 columns using the hi-res bitmapped screen, use the Batteries-Included 80-column card, or the 128's 80 column screen if you are running from the 64 mode of a 128. Being a 128 owner, I find the 64 simulated 80 columns somewhat hard to read (4 pixels/character!), but it is possible. Also, Kermit v2.2 has limited Tek-4010 graphics support, and claims to run well at 2400 baud (I have never tried). Finally, Kermit is a PD program! -Rob Knop rknop@juliet.caltech.edu
synth@yenta.alb.nm.us (Synth F. Oberheim) (12/09/90)
rknop@nntp-server.caltech.edu (Robert Andrew Knop) writes: >synth@yenta.alb.nm.us (Synth F. Oberheim) writes: >>Is there software available for the 64 that works with a 2400 baud >>(Hayes-compatible) modem, emulates a VT100, and simulates 80 columns? >There's always Kermit v2.2. This lets you run in 40 columns, 80 >columns using the hi-res bitmapped screen, use the Batteries-Included >80-column card, or the 128's 80 column screen if you are running from >the 64 mode of a 128 ... >Also, Kermit v2.2 has limited Tek-4010 graphics support, and claims to >run well at 2400 baud (I have never tried). Finally, Kermit is a PD >program! I got email saying that plug-in 2400 baud modems exist for the 64, with no interface necessary. Will Kermit 2.2 run harmoniously with one of these? And has anyone tried Kermit 2.2 at 2400 baud? Finally, can someone direct me to a place for ordering a 2400 plug-in? Thanks for your responses (both email and newsgrp), ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- :: :: :: :: :: Synth (F. Oberheim) yenta unix pc (((((In Stereo))))) :: :: :: :: :: :: :: synth@yenta.alb.nm.us Albuquerque where available ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chuba, able to leap tall trees, is ... DynaBlack!
rknop@nntp-server.caltech.edu (Robert Andrew Knop) (12/09/90)
synth@yenta.alb.nm.us (Synth F. Oberheim) writes: >I got email saying that plug-in 2400 baud modems exist for the 64, with >no interface necessary. Will Kermit 2.2 run harmoniously with one of >these? And has anyone tried Kermit 2.2 at 2400 baud? Finally, can >someone direct me to a place for ordering a 2400 plug-in? Kermit should work equally well with a direct plug-in modem and a modem interfaced via an RS-232 interface; since, to the point of view of the computer, it is just sending commands to *something* out the user port. As long as the device which eventually receives those commands understands them (as any Hayes compatible modem should), everything should work all right. Two places you can order a Hayes compatible modem: Tenex Computer Express advertises the Aprotek Minimodem-C24, a 2400 baud Hayes and 1670 compatible modem (i.e. it really ought to work with any C-64 modem program ever written). The cost is $79.95, the stock number is 88148, and Tenex's number is 1-800-PROMPT-1. DISCLAIMER: I have nothing to do with Tenex. I've ordered some things from them, and have in general been happy with the service. I report this merely because I think it may be useful for people on this board. Software Support International has the same modem at the same listed price. There the stock number is #C02251. The number is (800)356-1179 (USA), or (206)695-1393 (International). DISCLAIMER: I have nothing to do with SSI. I've... happy... merely... this board. (You get the idea). -Rob Knop rknop@juliet.caltech.edu
roger@odie.cs.mun.ca (Roger White) (12/10/90)
In article <1990Dec9.082433.20841@nntp-server.caltech.edu> rknop@nntp-server.caltech.edu (Robert Andrew Knop) writes: >synth@yenta.alb.nm.us (Synth F. Oberheim) writes: > >>I got email saying that plug-in 2400 baud modems exist for the 64, with >>no interface necessary. Will Kermit 2.2 run harmoniously with one of >>these? And has anyone tried Kermit 2.2 at 2400 baud? Finally, can >>someone direct me to a place for ordering a 2400 plug-in? > >Kermit should work equally well with a direct plug-in modem and a >modem interfaced via an RS-232 interface; since, to the point of view >of the computer, it is just sending commands to *something* out the >user port. As long as the device which eventually receives those >commands understands them (as any Hayes compatible modem should), >everything should work all right. > >-Rob Knop >rknop@juliet.caltech.edu Well according to the manual, kermit will only be reliable at 2400 baud when using the C-128 screen driver. I am not sure if it will work at all with any other screen driver, but it says the following: page 24 C-64/128 Kermit User's Guide Please note that communication speeds above 1200 are possi- ble ONLY on a C-128 when using the COMMODORE-128 screen driver. Because of hardware limitations, speeds above 1200 baud are not possible on a C-64.... That was taken exactly from the manual (word splits and everything :-) So I guess 2400 baud is not possible with a 64 running Kermit. I am not familiar with any other vt100 emulator that operates at 2400 baud with any configuration... maybe Novaterm v9.1 will do the job, I have never used it but I heard the ansi mode works good with vt100 systems. I am not sure if it runs at 2400 baud, but it is work checking out. R. White -- Boot it up? I did A LOT of that!| Roger White (Sam-Cheers) | Memorial University of Newfoundland --------------------------------| St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada .uunet!stretch.cs.mun.ca!roger, roger@stretch.mun.edu, roger@stretch.cs.mun.ca
cs4344af@evax.arl.utexas.edu (Fuzzy Fox) (12/11/90)
In article <1990Dec8.070454.8952@yenta.alb.nm.us> synth@yenta.alb.nm.us (Synth F. Oberheim) writes: >Is there software available for the 64 that works with a 2400 baud >(Hayes-compatible) modem, emulates a VT100, and simulates 80 columns? For VT100 emulation, I have not looked widely, but I have seen a public domain VT100 emulator for the C64. It was on Q-Link, but I have never used it. I have used Kermit 2.2, and found its VT100 emulation quite good, although 80 columns in 320x200 graphics makes some rather hard-to-read characters. But stilll decipherable. I have found that Kermit 2.2 does NOT run reliably at 2400 baud. (I am a happy user of the Aprotek C-24, a great modem buy if you don't plan to use it for anything but a Commodore. Wait, their latest had has a device to translate the user port connecter on the C24 to an RS-232 connector. Sorta backwards, eh? But I degress...) A recent (well, not really) article in Transactor called "Toward 2400" listed a short patch to the RS-232 code that allows flawless 2400 baud communication with most terminal programs, and in fact improves even 1200 baud communications (no more errors when sending and receiving at the same time). This patch works very well with Kermit 2.2, and I am happy with that.