rknop@nntp-server.caltech.edu (Robert Andrew Knop) (01/20/91)
chrisi@spock.usc.edu (Chris Irwin) writes: >Is there a better term ot for the 128 >now or a more recent version of Bob's that has a good vt100 emulation? >If so, could someone please send me a copy? The two favorites are "Kermit2.2" and "Desterm2.0", both of which are available at the milton ftp site. The latter is the best terminal program available for the C128, I would wager, but the former offers the Kermit transfer protocol, and limited TEK-4010 support. I use the latter usually, with the former when I need to transfer files or (rarely) plot graphics. Of course, you probably got 100 letters saying exactly this same thing! -Rob Knop rknop@tybalt.caltech.edu
chrisi@spock.usc.edu (Chris Irwin) (01/22/91)
Thanks for all of your replies regarding a vt100 term program. The overwhelming choice seems to be Desterm 2.0. I got this from milton and extracted everything but can't get the sucker to run -- I get the title screen and then it resets my machine. Has anyone else experienced a similar problem? I did this (took it from milton, extracted, booted, etc) twice and got the same result each time. I still have the original C=128 chips (I recall that there were upgrades or something around several years ago), could that have something to do with it? Chris -- /"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""\ | _____ | Protect YOUR Second | _ /| | | / / ' ____ | Amendment Rights -- | \'o.O' -ACK! | | / /---- /--- / (__ | Support the National | =(___)= -PFHHHT! |
Matthew.Desmond@p0.f178.n221.z1.fidonet.org (Matthew Desmond) (01/23/91)
Chris: Most of the trouble that people have with DesTerm is due to funny hardware combinations: If you have IEEE devices or non-serial harddrives, then don't try to use them -- they won't work. This *has hopfully* been fixed for the next version, but my testers haven't got back to me yet. If you have a GEORam or Stereo SID cartridge -- unplug it! Again, the next DesTerm will work with them installed (I refuse to support GEORam simply because it is prefixed by the three letters GEO...) If neither of these problems is not the cause, then ensure the correctness of the files with the CRC CHECK program... If this still raises no answers, please leave me more info... Matthew E. Desmond, Author of DesTerm 128 -- Matthew Desmond - via FidoNet node 1:221/171 UUCP : watmath!xenitec!zswamp!178.0!Matthew.Desmond Internet: Matthew.Desmond@p0.f178.n221.z1.fidonet.org
hinkle@acsu.buffalo.edu (steven j hinkle) (01/23/91)
In article <1991Jan21.161536.23959@evax.arl.utexas.edu> cs4344af@evax.arl.utexas.edu (Fuzzy Fox) writes: > >The best VT100 emulation comes from a program by Fred Bowen called >VT100/128 v2.1. >It is the best there is, IMO, because it transforms the 128 keypad into >a real keypad just like a real VT100, so using EDT, et al, is a breeze. I disagree with this. I am not going to promote my favorite but I don't think vt100/128 is a very good program. I got it when I got my modem and it didn't work very well. >The only problem I've had is that I can't get the Xmodem to work >properly. I haven't needed it yet, though. this is a big problem with this program. Xmodem never works. It will act like it is working but two hours later you still don't have anything. >The program works even better if you use George Hug's RS232 patch to >allow 1200 or 2400 CBAT. I never saw a pacth to allow 2400 baud with this. I could do 1200 but then I am under using my modem. -- | Steven Hinkle "The Quaker" | Always look on the bright side.| | University of Buffalo | If there isn't one, check the | | INTERNET : hinkle@acsu.buffalo.edu | light bulb, it is probably | | BITNET : hinkle@sunybcs | burned out. |
cs4344af@evax.arl.utexas.edu (Fuzzy Fox) (01/23/91)
In article <55400@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> hinkle@acsu.buffalo.edu (steven j hinkle) writes: >In article <1991Jan21.161536.23959@evax.arl.utexas.edu> cs4344af@evax.arl.utexas.edu (Fuzzy Fox) writes: >> >>The best VT100 emulation comes from a program by Fred Bowen called >>VT100/128 v2.1. >>It is the best there is, IMO, because it transforms the 128 keypad into >>a real keypad just like a real VT100, so using EDT, et al, is a breeze. > > I disagree with this. I am not going to promote my favorite >but I don't think vt100/128 is a very good program. I got it when >I got my modem and it didn't work very well. Aha! If you got it with your modem, you are probably NOT using version 2.1, but the original program by Joe O'Hara, which was, alas, not a very good program at all. Version 2.1 improves tremendously on the program, and is basically, in Fred Bowen's words, "a rewrite of several parts of the program." >>The only problem I've had is that I can't get the Xmodem to work >>properly. I haven't needed it yet, though. > > this is a big problem with this program. Xmodem never works. It >will act like it is working but two hours later you still don't have >anything. This may be due to version number differences, again. However, I never use Xmodem, because I am always calling over a 7E1 line, which makes Xmodem useless. > I never saw a pacth to allow 2400 baud with this. I could do 1200 >but then I am under using my modem. I typed in the patch from the issue of Transactor that it appeared in. I believe what I will do is ARC this stuff together and post the latest version of VT100/128 at the Milton site, and then let you decide again. Can you tell that I hate to see one of my favorite programs trashed? :) -- begin 644 .signature G5&AI<R!S<&%C92!I;G1E;G1I;VYA;&QY(&QE9G0@8FQA;FLN#0H: end
digdon@ug.cs.dal.ca (Mike Digdon) (01/23/91)
The best VT100 emulator for the 128 can be found (I think anyway) in Desterm 2.00. It is actually a vt102 emulator that can do 101 and 100... very nice indeed.. -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ + Mike Digdon: digdon@ug.cs.dal.ca + My 64 can still get the + + mike@ac.dal.ca + job at hand completed!! + +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
rknop@nntp-server.caltech.edu (Robert Andrew Knop) (01/26/91)
Matthew.Desmond@p0.f178.n221.z1.fidonet.org (Matthew Desmond) writes: >(I refuse to support >GEORam simply because it is prefixed by the three letters GEO...) Whew... this sounds like it's along the lines of my kneejerk instinctive reaction when I see something prefixed with the letters "Mac". -Rob Knop rknop@tybalt.caltech.edu (I like GEO though)
root@zswamp.fidonet.org (Geoffrey Welsh) (01/27/91)
In a letter to All, Robert Andrew Knop (rknop@nntp-server.caltech.edu ) wrote: >Matthew.Desmond@p0.f178.n221.z1.fidonet.org (Matthew >Desmond) writes: >(I refuse to support >GEORam simply because it is prefixed by the three letters GEO...) >Whew... this sounds like it's along the lines of my kneejerk >instinctive >reaction when I see something prefixed with the letters "Mac". Rather than get too seriously upset over what Matt said, you should take into consideration the cost (in both cash and time, not to mention code space) of acquiring and supporting every bleedin' flavour of third-party device. If a hardware supplier wishes their products to be supported, it behooves them to make sure that software developers can get hold of one at low cost and can get *high* tech support. So far, only Dr. Evil Labs, Hatronics, and (to a lesser degree) CMD have stooped to 'help' Matt (which resulted in substantial improvements to the design of the SwiftLink and HART). -- UUCP: watmath!xenitec!zswamp!root | 602-66 Mooregate Crescent Internet: root@zswamp.fidonet.org | Kitchener, Ontario FidoNet: SYSOP, 1:221/171 | N2M 5E6 CANADA Data: (519) 742-8939 | (519) 741-9553 MC Hammer, n. Device used to ensure firm seating of MicroChannel boards Try our new Molson 'C' compiler... it specializes in 'case' statements!
rknop@nntp-server.caltech.edu (Robert Andrew Knop) (01/29/91)
root@zswamp.fidonet.org (Geoffrey Welsh) writes: > >Whew... this sounds like it's along the lines of my kneejerk > >instinctive > >reaction when I see something prefixed with the letters "Mac". > Rather than get too seriously upset over what Matt said, you should take >into consideration the cost... I wasn't at all upset... what I said, I meant in a jocular tone. I guess I should have included a smiley. :) -Rob Knop rknop@tybatl.caltech.edu