specter@disk.UUCP (Byron Max Guernsey) (06/28/90)
I really hope that Desterm stays usuable by all. In other words, I have seen software that began as a good program, then the author made so many changes that it was incompatible with the basic c128. IE: he made it rely on VDC ram and a 1571 or 1581 and expanded memory. etc... I'd hate to see desterm go: Usuable by c128 owners with a link to an ibm pc, a multi-sync monitor, a 20 meg drive, an optic mouse, symphony cart, a 9600 baud modem, a c128-d, etc... :> Byron
lcs@remus.rutgers.edu (Lyle C. Seplowitz) (12/29/90)
I have recently downloaded Desterm 2.0, an excellent terminal program. Thank you Matt for this superb program. I did, briefly, use Desterm 1.2 when I borrowed my friends 1670 modem. Now that I have my own 1670 I have upgraded to 2.0. There is still one problem that has held over since the original version. I selected "Light Cyan" as my "Char Color". However, shortly after using the terminal in VT102 mode the character color changes to "Cyan" (the darker version). While this is minor, the darker color can be hard on the eyes. Is this a problem with Desterm or with the VT102 control codes? One other problem also held over from the original is the difficulty in setting up the program for my modem. Although I had less problems this time around, it still took me awhile to get Desterm to work with the 1670. I'm still not sure why it works, I really didn't change anything. I would like to THANK YOU for including the documentation in plain, cbm ascii files that can be read and printed from within Desterm. I had SO MUCH trouble printing the manual in version 1.2 because you formatted it in standard ascii format with linefeeds. I had to write my own small program to strip the linefeeds. Thanks again for the great program. As soon as I start working again (the end of January) I will send you the shareware fee (money is very tight right now).
Matthew.Desmond@p0.f178.n221.z1.fidonet.org (Matthew Desmond) (12/30/90)
Lyle: > Now that I have my own 1670 I have upgraded to 2.0. There > is still one > problem that has held over since the original version. > I selected > "Light Cyan" as my "Char Color". However, shortly after > using the > terminal in VT102 mode the character color changes to "Cyan" > (the > darker version). While this is minor, the darker color > can be hard on > the eyes. Is this a problem with Desterm or with the VT102 > control > codes? VT102 has a command to turn bright mode on, and also a way to turn bright mode off. If you select Light Cyan and a 'brigt off' command comes accross, then the colour will change to regular cyan. I see no way around this, other than to suggest that you don't select 'bright' colours when using VT102 - and you won't be surprised... > One other problem also held over from the original is the > difficulty in setting up the program for my modem. Although > I had > less problems this time around, it still took me awhile > to get Desterm > to work with the 1670. I'm still not sure why it works, > I really > didn't change anything. For a 1670, just select 1200 baud and modem=1670... You may need to change dial parameters depending on your exchange (redial pause etc) but 1670's are fully catered for now. Matthew E. Desmond -- Matthew Desmond - via FidoNet node 1:221/171 UUCP : watmath!xenitec!zswamp!178.0!Matthew.Desmond Internet: Matthew.Desmond@p0.f178.n221.z1.fidonet.org
lcs@remus.rutgers.edu (Lyle C. Seplowitz) (12/30/90)
In the previous message I forgot to mention that in VT102 mode I cannot use the cursor keys. Is there a way to use either set of cursor keys. The mouse doesn't work in terminal mode either.
root@zswamp.fidonet.org (Geoffrey Welsh) (12/30/90)
Lyle C. Seplowitz (lcs@remus.rutgers.edu ) wrote: >I selected "Light Cyan" as my "Char Color". However, shortly after >using the terminal in VT102 mode the character color changes to "Cyan" >(the darker version). While this is minor, the darker color can >be hard on the eyes. Is this a problem with Desterm or with the VT102 >control codes? The host is probably sending a control code to cancel bold; DesTerm is just following instructions. You should avoid choosing the 'light' colours in that situation. -- UUCP: watmath!xenitec!zswamp!root | 602-66 Mooregate Crescent Internet: root@zswamp.fidonet.org | Kitchener, Ontario FidoNet: SYSOP, 1:221/171 | N2M 5E6 CANADA Data: (519) 742-8939 | (519) 741-9553 MC Hammer, n. Device used to ensure firm seating of MicroChannel boards Try our new Molson 'C' compiler... it specializes in 'case' statements!
dattier@ddsw1.MCS.COM (David W. Tamkin) (12/30/90)
lcs@remus.rutgers.edu (Lyle C. Seplowitz) wrote in <Dec.28.23.32.48.1990.28300@remus.rutgers.edu>: | I have recently downloaded Desterm 2.0, an excellent terminal program. | Thank you Matt for this superb program. I second that (being a registered owner). | There is still one problem that has held over since the original version. | I selected "Light Cyan" as my "Char Color". However, shortly after using | the terminal in VT102 mode the character color changes to "Cyan" (the | darker version). While this is minor, the darker color can be hard on the | eyes. Is this a problem with Desterm or with the VT102 control codes? The VT100 series include escape sequences for changing the cursor color. Some hosts think they know better than the user what the user likes and abuse that feature, changing colors in the middle of the text instead of keeping the capability in abeyance until it is needed for graphs or pictures. There is no way to query the user's current background color, so I've frequently found that text suddenly becomes hard to read or totally invisible. Another VT100 series function is regulating the brightness of the text. On the C128 that means that the I bit of the color code is turned on or off. That's likely the specific thing that is changing your character color from light cyan to dark cyan: your system is receiving the escape sequence to shut off full brightness, but you're using a dark background color against which dark cyan is hard to read. Suggestions: find a character color/background color pair where either the dark or the light character color is legible against that background color, or if it's a Unix system, hamstring the brightness control feature out of your terminfo (or switch to ansi instead of vt100, which worked for me). David Tamkin Box 7002 Des Plaines IL 60018-7002 708 518 6769 312 693 0591 MCI Mail: 426-1818 GEnie: D.W.TAMKIN CIS: 73720,1570 dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com
Matthew.Desmond@p0.f178.n221.z1.fidonet.org (Matthew Desmond) (12/30/90)
Lyle: > In the previous message I forgot to mention that in VT102 > mode I > cannot use the cursor keys. Is there a way to use either > set of cursor > keys. The mouse doesn't work in terminal mode either. I assure you that the cursor keys will in fact send the codes that a VT102 would send. There are two sets of codes that get sent -- Application Mode and Cursor mode. If the application you are using doesn't properly know what mode the cursor keys are in, then things will look wrong. See P. 57 of the DesTerm manual for more details. Matt -- Matthew Desmond - via FidoNet node 1:221/171 UUCP : watmath!xenitec!zswamp!178.0!Matthew.Desmond Internet: Matthew.Desmond@p0.f178.n221.z1.fidonet.org
prindle@nadc.nadc.navy.mil (Frank Prindle) (03/03/91)
In reference to obtaining the full description of the Kermit protocol, it is available via anonymous FTP from watsun.cc.columbia.edu as the file /kermit/e/kproto.doc, or for a postscript version, /kermit/e/kproto.ps. Sincerely, Frank Prindle Prindle@NADC.navy.mil
scott@uwav1.u.washington.edu (03/03/91)
In article <POSTNEWS23110@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL>, prindle@nadc.nadc.navy.mil (Frank Prindle) writes: > In reference to obtaining the full description of the Kermit protocol, it > is available via anonymous FTP from watsun.cc.columbia.edu as the file > /kermit/e/kproto.doc, or for a postscript version, /kermit/e/kproto.ps. > Sincerely, > Frank Prindle > Prindle@NADC.navy.mil One can also download, documention, source code, and the Kermit program itself from oswego.oswego.edu FTP in the subdirection "pub/Commodore/C64/Kermit". They also have a lot of stuff in regards to kermit. Sincerely, Scott K. Stephen