msinger@anselm.UUCP (prof mary singer) (09/07/89)
Hello, It seems that the commodore computer is of a dieing breed, the mad rush for commodore 64's has ended, and the Amiga is now 'in'. but, im just curious. if there is ANY interest in the 64, anymore, does anyone out there care?? just a wondering...
jgreco@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Joe Greco) (09/07/89)
% cat .article | sarcasm-filter > .newarticle In comp.sys.cbm article <269@anselm.UUCP>, msinger@anselm.UUCP (prof mary singer) wrote: > > Hello, It seems that the VAX computer is of a dieing breed, the > mad rush for VAX machines has ended, and the Cray is now 'in'. > but, im just curious. if there is ANY interest in the VAX, anymore, > does anyone out there care?? > > just a wondering... Your original posting sounds as ridiculous as the above translation of it. The Commodore 8 bit machines aren't a "dying breed" until people stop using them. There are people here that know a great deal about the 64 - often a great deal more than the equivalent IBM user. Some people use the 64 for experimentation. The 64 is ideal.... it is a powerful, easily expandable machine that isn't very costly. Lately, we've seen plans for a MIDI interface, and there has been discussion about many other possible hardware modifications. I myself have made numerous modifications to my machines.... things I would not dare attempt on a much more expensive Clone. That doesn't sound like a "dying machine." I use one of my machines to run a BBS. It's a nice BBS. As a matter of fact, some IBM BBS SysOps have been quite suprised at some of the features. Granted, the IBM system may be faster - but I don't have the advantage of a hard drive. I've made my machine do things that IBM SysOps would like to see on their machines, and leave some other 64 SysOps in awe. That's the truth. And for every "neat" thing I've done with it on my BBS, I know hackers that have done equally impressive feats with robotics, terminal programs, Kernal reprogramming, and various hardware modifications. With all the things I see being done with the Commodore 8 bit machines, I can hardly agree with your idea that these machines are a "dying breed." -- jgreco@csd4.milw.wisc.edu Joe Greco at FidoNet 1:154/200 USnail: 9905 W Montana Ave PunterNet Node 30 or 31 West Allis, WI 53227-3329 "These aren't anybody's opinions." Voice: 414/321-6184 Data: 414/321-9287 (Happy Hacker's BBS)
po87553@tut.fi (Ojala Pasi Juhani) (09/07/89)
In article <4145@csd4.csd.uwm.edu> jgreco@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Joe Greco) writes: > >I use one of my machines to run a BBS. It's a nice BBS. As a matter >of fact, some IBM BBS SysOps have been quite suprised at some of the >features. Granted, the IBM system may be faster - but I don't have >the advantage of a hard drive. > You could use 1581 and burst-load...! I do! My BBS is quite fast, even though it is only partly MC (It is much faster and easier to change Basic-part..) My system is fairly good , I can mail you a demo, if you want to see it.. You could show me yours.. >I've made my machine do things that IBM SysOps would like to see on >their machines, and leave some other 64 SysOps in awe. That's the >truth. Well, as we say here: If you can't do your software, you aren't ready to be Sysops.. :-) -- ******************************************************************** Pasi Ojala The number of people staring at you is straightly po87553@tut.fi proportional to the stupidity of your action. ********************************************************************
jgreco@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Joe Greco) (09/12/89)
In comp.sys.cbm article <2000@alva.tut.fi>, po87553@alva.UUCP (Ojala Pasi Juhani) wrote: >You could use 1581 and burst-load...! I do! My BBS is quite fast, even >though it is only partly MC (It is much faster and easier to >change Basic-part..) My system is fairly good , I can mail you a demo, >if you want to see it.. You could show me yours.. I avoid serial, and I'm on a 64 so burst mode is less than ideal. The system runs on IEEE based equipment. Actually, if I were to patch up the IEEE drivers to work with serial, the system would work quite nicely with a 1581. >Well, as we say here: If you can't do your software, you aren't > ready to be Sysops.. :-) Well, I've done more than one BBS. This is actually the third ground-up rewrite.... ;-) >-- >******************************************************************** > Pasi Ojala The number of people staring at you is straightly > po87553@tut.fi proportional to the stupidity of your action. >******************************************************************** -- jgreco@csd4.milw.wisc.edu Joe Greco at FidoNet 1:154/200 USnail: 9905 W Montana Ave PunterNet Node 30 or 31 West Allis, WI 53227-3329 "These aren't anybody's opinions." Voice: 414/321-6184 Data: 414/321-9287 (Happy Hacker's BBS)
po87553@tut.fi (Ojala Pasi Juhani) (09/12/89)
In article <10@uwm.edu> jgreco@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Joe Greco) writes: >I avoid serial, and I'm on a 64 so burst mode is less than ideal. The >system runs on IEEE based equipment. I use c64 too.. so it is no excuse not to use burst... the program is 1.5 pages and need only two wires.. So, it don't help much with short files, but anyway, you can't anymore see message length from load-time.. -- //////////////////////////////////////// My friend runs a bbs in // Pasi Ojala // Pasbox v2.6 // his Vic-20. Is there // po87553@tut.fi // C64 forever // another one in the world? ////////////////////////////////////////
jgreco@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Joe Greco) (09/13/89)
In comp.sys.cbm article <2012@alva.tut.fi>, po87553@alva.UUCP (Ojala Pasi Juhani) wrote:
]In article <10@uwm.edu> jgreco@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Joe Greco) writes:
]>I avoid serial, and I'm on a 64 so burst mode is less than ideal. The
]>system runs on IEEE based equipment.
]
] I use c64 too.. so it is no excuse not to use burst... the program is 1.5
]pages and need only two wires.. So, it don't help much with short
]files, but anyway, you can't anymore see message length from load-time..
Actually, I have no worthwhile serial drives with burst (such as a 1581).
However, if it is a public-domain type thing, I certainly would not mind
having a copy on hand for possible future use.
The most serious problem is that the BBS IEEE drivers overrun the serial
drivers. If this wasn't the case, I'd probably have at least a 1541 online
for some misc. storage space.
]
]--
] //////////////////////////////////////// My friend runs a bbs in
] // Pasi Ojala // Pasbox v2.6 // his Vic-20. Is there
] // po87553@tut.fi // C64 forever // another one in the world?
]////////////////////////////////////////
^^ I once had a program that
I had written....
--
jgreco@csd4.milw.wisc.edu Joe Greco at FidoNet 1:154/200
USnail: 9905 W Montana Ave PunterNet Node 30 or 31
West Allis, WI 53227-3329 "These aren't anybody's opinions."
Voice: 414/321-6184 Data: 414/321-9287 (Happy Hacker's BBS)po87553@tut.fi (Ojala Pasi Juhani) (09/14/89)
In article <38@uwm.edu> jgreco@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Joe Greco) writes: >... >However, if it is a public-domain type thing, I certainly would not mind >having a copy on hand for possible future use. > In fact it is PD, I posted it here some time ago. If you missed that, I can mail it.. >] //////////////////////////////////////// My friend runs a bbs in >] // Pasi Ojala // Pasbox v2.6 // his Vic-20. Is there >] // po87553@tut.fi // C64 forever // another one in the world? >]//////////////////////////////////////// > ^^ I once had a program that > I had written.... This vic-box is v.21/22 and soon 24H.. so.. and it soon has 256kB of battery-backed-up Ram-disk.. Sorry if there is many spelling mistakes.. -- //////////////////////////////////////// My friend runs a bbs in // Pasi Ojala // Pasbox v2.6 // his Vic-20. Is there // po87553@tut.fi // C64 forever // another one in the world? ////////////////////////////////////////
CTuna@cup.portal.com (Image - BBS) (03/04/91)
I am selling my entire library of Commodore books, along with a few other "generic" computer books. All prices are NOT including shipping, so please add about $1.50 per book to the total. Commodore Specific books: Title Pub/Author Price --------------------------------------------------------------- Complete Course in BASIC Programming CBM $10.00 (includes 3 disks) Inside Commodore DOS Immers/Neufeld $10.00 1541 User's Guide Neufeld $10.00 Printer Book for C64 Abacus $7.00 Tool Kit: Kernal Compute! $8.00 Mapping the C64 Compute! $7.00 C64 Music Book Vogel $5.00 Data File Handler for C64 Compute! $5.00 C64 Puzzlements Kohl $3.00 Creating Arcade Games for C64 Compute! $7.00 First Book of C64 Compute! $6.00 Tool Kit: BASIC Compute! $8.00 Big Tip Book for C64 Beagle Bros. $8.00 C64 Programmer's Reference Guide Commodore $7.00 GEOS Programmer's Reference Guide Berkeley $10.00 Getting the Most from the C64 Onosko $6.00 Advanced Programming Techniques C64 Lawrence $6.00 Advanced Game Design for C64 Schwenk $5.00 Graphics for C64 Compute! $6.00 C128 Troubleshooting/Repair Sams $12.00 1541 Troubleshooting/Repair Sams $12.00 Program Protection Manual C64 Vol II CSM Software $8.00 Machine Language for C64, 128 etc. Butterfield $10.00 C64 Troubleshooting/Repair Sams $10.00 C128 Assembly Language Programming Sams $12.00 C64/128 Assembly Language Programming Sams $10.00 Second Book of Commodore 64 Compute! $6.00 All About the Commodore C64 Compute! $6.00 Kids and the Commodore 64 Compute! $6.00 Telecomputing on the C64 Compute! $6.00 --------------------------------------------------------------- Other books: Title Pub/Author Price --------------------------------------------------------------- 6502 Assembly Language Programming Wiley $5.00 BASIC Handbook Lien $15.00 Game Playing with BASIC Spencer $3.00 Computers for Everybody Willis $3.00 A To Z Book of Computer Games McIntire $2.00 34 Game Programs in BASIC Horn $2.00 Giant Book of Computer Software Tab $2.00 BASIC Cookbook Tracton $2.00 Making BASIC Work for You DeRossi $2.00 Machine Language for Beginners Compute! $8.00 PET/CBM Personal Computer Guide Osborne $2.00 6502 Assembly Language Programming Osborne $5.00 Z80 Assembly Language Programming Osborne $2.00 Programming the PET/CBM West $5.00 More BASIC Computer Games Ahl $3.00 Best of Creative Computing Vol I Ahl $3.00 Best of Creative Computing Vol II Ahl $3.00 BASIC Computer Games TRS-80 Ed. Radio Shack $1.00 Crash Course in Microcomputers Sams $5.00 1001 Things to do with your PC Sawusch $2.00 --------------------------------------------------------------- If someone is interested in the whole kit and kaboodle, I will let it all go for $250.00 plus shipping. Total seperately comes to $307.00. But act fast, I will be selling these as the orders come in. :D ctuna@cup.portal.com Don Gladden PO Box 247 Fullerton, CA 92632 714-526-3270
CTuna@cup.portal.com (Don S Gladden) (05/20/91)
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