Glenn_M_Powell@cup.portal.com (12/02/87)
I've heard mention of a new UNISIG tape that might(hopefully) be ready for this month's convention. Will it be available from the DECUS libraries or will it come from inside UNISIG? I unfortuneatly am not getting to go this time so I need for an associate to pick it up for me and I don't want to let him screw it up. thanx in advance, Glenn Powell(gpowell@umkcvax1.bitnet)
cdl@mplvax.UUCP (12/03/87)
In article <1729@cup.portal.com> Glenn_M_Powell@cup.portal.com writes: >I've heard mention of a new UNISIG tape that might(hopefully) be ready >for this month's convention. Will it be available from the DECUS libraries >or will it come from inside UNISIG? This is your UNISIG Librarian speaking. There has been a UNISIG tape in existence since the previous DECUS symposium (Spring '87). It has been submitted both to the DECUS library and to the LUG tape distribution tree, and should be available from either. However, to my knowledge, neither of these places has figured out how to copy a 'tar' tape using a VMS system, so they are all stalling. I hope to give things a good healthy prod during next week's symposium, so that the software can be distributed before it dies of bit rot. -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego {ihnp4|decvax|dcdwest|ucbvax} !sdcsvax!mplvax!cdl
mkhaw@teknowledge-vaxc.UUCP (12/04/87)
| This is your UNISIG Librarian speaking. There has been a UNISIG tape | in existence since the previous DECUS symposium (Spring '87). It has | been submitted both to the DECUS library and to the LUG tape distribution | tree, and should be available from either. | | However, to my knowledge, neither of these places has figured out how to | copy a 'tar' tape using a VMS system, so they are all stalling. I hope Maybe they should get DEC/Shell if they can't get a Decus tar. (DEC/Shell comes with a tar program) Mike Khaw internet: mkhaw@teknowledge-vaxc.arpa usenet: {uunet|sun|ucbvax|decwrl|uw-beaver}!mkhaw%teknowledge-vaxc.arpa USnail: Teknowledge Inc, 1850 Embarcadero Rd, POB 10119, Palo Alto, CA 94303 -- internet: mkhaw@teknowledge-vaxc.arpa usenet: {uunet|sun|ucbvax|decwrl|uw-beaver}!mkhaw%teknowledge-vaxc.arpa USnail: Teknowledge Inc, 1850 Embarcadero Rd, POB 10119, Palo Alto, CA 94303
awr@tybalt.caltech.edu (Bruce Rossiter) (12/04/87)
mkhaw@teknowledge-vaxc.ARPA (Mike Khaw) writes: cdl@mplvax.nosc.MIL (Carl Lowenstein) writes: >| This is your UNISIG Librarian speaking. There has been a UNISIG tape >| in existence since the previous DECUS symposium (Spring '87). It has >| been submitted both to the DECUS library and to the LUG tape distribution >| tree, and should be available from either. >| >| However, to my knowledge, neither of these places has figured out how to >| copy a 'tar' tape using a VMS system, so they are all stalling. I hope > >Maybe they should get DEC/Shell if they can't get a Decus tar. (DEC/Shell >comes with a tar program) I don't know about a DECUS tar, but I have a Public Domain tar for VMS from Sid Penstone at Queen's University in Kingston, Ontario. I have used it with *no* problems for moving from a VMS 4.5 machine to a BSD4.3 VAX and back. If anyone out there needs a copy, they can drop me a line and I'll send it out (specify preferred format please!). -Bruce ---------- ARPAnet awr@tybalt.caltech.edu BITNET awr@caltech.BITNET UUCP {amdahl,rutgers}!cit-vax!tybalt.caltech.edu!awr
cdl@mplvax.nosc.MIL (Carl Lowenstein) (12/04/87)
In article <19337@teknowledge-vaxc.ARPA> mkhaw@teknowledge-vaxc.ARPA (Mike Khaw) writes:
+| This is your UNISIG Librarian speaking. There has been a UNISIG tape
+| in existence since the previous DECUS symposium (Spring '87). It has
+| been submitted both to the DECUS library and to the LUG tape distribution
+| tree, and should be available from either.
+|
+| However, to my knowledge, neither of these places has figured out how to
+| copy a 'tar' tape using a VMS system, so they are all stalling. I hope
+
+Maybe they should get DEC/Shell if they can't get a Decus tar. (DEC/Shell
+comes with a tar program)
+
+Mike Khaw
+internet: mkhaw@teknowledge-vaxc.arpa
+usenet: {uunet|sun|ucbvax|decwrl|uw-beaver}!mkhaw%teknowledge-vaxc.arpa
I didn't say they could not read and understand a 'tar' tape. I said they
could not copy one. That is, make an image copy of a tape with the
complicated file structure consisting of a large number of 10240-byte
records followed by two file marks.
--
carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego
{ihnp4|decvax|ucbvax} !sdcsvax!mplvax!cdld2b@rayssd.RAY.COM (Donald A. Borsay) (01/08/88)
Sorry I missed the orginal discussion, but apparently
Bruce Rossiter, Mike Khaw, and Carl Lowenstein where all talking about
the existance of a UNISIG Spring '87 SIG tape. Well, I am the
Tape Librarian for the Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts Local
Users Group (CRIMLUG), and I know I got it thru the LUG tape distribution
tree. Last time I looked, however, the DECUS Library didn't know how
to catalog it (it ain't for VMS, so where does it go?!).
Tape copy of all these odd tape formats can be a real bitch, unless you
have facilities like I do here at Raytheon. We have this neat Unix
program (yeah, someone could do the same for VMS, but I'm glad I didn't
have to) that does a logical block copy of a tape. Works fine, even copies
between different density tapes. Anyways, if anyone really needs a place
to send for a tape copy, I'll handle it here. Please mail me for details.
As a side note, Rich Salz, moderator of the USENET newsgroup MOD.SOURCES
(renamed to COMP.SOURCES.UNIX), has kindly provided me with an archive tape of
contributions made to that newsgroup from late 1984 to May of 1987.
Thanks Rich! The contributions are contained on one 2400 foot, 1600 bpi tape, \
written in UNIX TAR format. If anyone is interested, I have a summary of
what's on the tape.
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