dieter@jupiter.nmt.edu (The Demented Teddy Bear) (11/28/88)
I've been led to believe that a C compiler for small PDP-11s exists. One rumour is that it is available via DECUS. Has anybody seen this beasty? Would I be better off writing my own? If it does exist, etc, how small an -11 can I run it on? Thanks. Dieter -- Welcome to the island. You are number six. dieter%nmt@relay.cs.net dieter@jupiter.nmt.edu
dmcintee@netxcom.UUCP (Dave McIntee) (11/29/88)
In article <1535@nmtsun.nmt.edu> dieter@jupiter.nmt.edu (The Demented Teddy Bear) writes: >I've been led to believe that a C compiler for small PDP-11s exists. >One rumour is that it is available via DECUS. Has anybody seen this >beasty? Would I be better off writing my own? If it does exist, etc, >how small an -11 can I run it on? > >Thanks. In 1983 and 84 I used DECUS C on a PDP-11/34a with 128KB on memory running RSTS/E. (Try to find a smaller system that today!) It worked out very well. -- Dave McIntee NetExpress Communications, Inc. Phone: (703)749-2380 1953 Gallows Road, Suite 300 uunet!netxcom!dmcintee Vienna, VA 22180
johnl@n3dmc.UU.NET (John Limpert) (11/29/88)
In article <1535@nmtsun.nmt.edu> dieter@jupiter.nmt.edu (The Demented Teddy Bear) writes: >I've been led to believe that a C compiler for small PDP-11s exists. >One rumour is that it is available via DECUS. Has anybody seen this >beasty? Would I be better off writing my own? If it does exist, etc, >how small an -11 can I run it on? DECUS has a very nice (and large) C compiler package for the PDP-11. I ordered it several years ago and installed it on a PDP-11/24 under RSX-11M and on a LSI-11 under RT-11. It would run just fine on the LSI-11 with 28KW and an RX01 floppy disk subsystem. The only problems you might have are getting the sources off the tape and building the compiler. The tape is in DOS-11 format and you may need to get some of the DECUS file transfer utilities if you are working with RT-11. While the compiler can be manually built on a floppy only system, it is much easier to build on a system with RL02's or some other type of hard disk. A recent DECUS catalog should have most of the info that you need. -- John A. Limpert UUCP: johnl@n3dmc.UUCP, johnl@n3dmc.UU.NET, uunet!n3dmc!johnl
dieter@titan.nmt.edu (The Demented Teddy Bear) (11/29/88)
In article <1067@netxcom.UUCP>, dmcintee@netxcom (Dave McIntee) writes: > In article <1535@nmtsun.nmt.edu> I write: > >I've been led to believe that a C compiler for small PDP-11s exists. > > In 1983 and 84 I used DECUS C on a PDP-11/34a with 128KB on memory running > RSTS/E. (Try to find a smaller system that today!) It worked out very well. No problem. PDP-11/03 w/ 30 Kw of memory running RT-11. That's right, no separate I&D. I need a code squeezer; it's kind of like a wine press, only different. I remember when 16 Kb was more memory than anyone would ever use, except maybe the big number-crunching physicists and their Crays. Today, 4 Mb is too small for a Sun 3/50 running SunOS 4.0 (or even 3.5). And yet Unix started on a PDP-11 that wasn't much bigger than my 03. VMS is pretty much a pig with similar amounts of memory also. Whatever happened to "small & fast"? Never mind me, I'm rambling again. Even my employer knows I'm going senile.... Dieter -- Welcome to the island. You are number six. dieter%nmt@relay.cs.net dieter@jupiter.nmt.edu
ben@vmsa.technion.ac.il (Ben Pashkoff) (11/30/88)
In article <1535@nmtsun.nmt.edu>, dieter@nmtsun.BITNET writes: > I've been led to believe that a C compiler for small PDP-11s exists. > One rumour is that it is available via DECUS. Has anybody seen this > beasty? Would I be better off writing my own? If it does exist, etc, > how small an -11 can I run it on? > The item you want is a decus c compiler, number 11-sp-18. I have an entry for it in the 1986/87 catalog. It says that it does not run on pdp11/40 and lsi 11 FIS floating point. The kernel is written in MACRO-11 and the language is then written in c. -- ___________________________________________________________________________ | | | Ben Pashkoff BEN@VMSA.TECHNION.AC.IL | | BEN@TECHMAX.BITNET | | BEN@TECHUNIX.BITNET | | VAX/VMS Systems APLBENJ@TECHNION.BITNET | | Computer Center VMSA::BEN | | Technion IIT | | Haifa, Israel 32000 Phone:(972)-4-292176 | |_________________________________________________________________________|
aad@stpstn.UUCP (Anthony A. Datri) (12/01/88)
In article <1535@nmtsun.nmt.edu> dieter@jupiter.nmt.edu (The Demented Teddy Bear) writes: >I've been led to believe that a C compiler for small PDP-11s exists. >One rumour is that it is available via DECUS. Has anybody seen this >beasty? Would I be better off writing my own? If it does exist, etc, >how small an -11 can I run it on? The DECUS C compiler runs under RT11 (among other os's), and I'm pretty sure it'll run on a non-seperate I&D space 11, ie., it'll run on anything. If your machine is so small it doesn't have 64kb of core (none of that new-fangled MOS stuff:-), you might want to up it to that. The copy I have on RX01's came from an 11/23. If someone will send me a bootable RT11 system on an RX02, I'll send them back a copy of the DECUS C I've got. You see, I upgraded from rx01's to rx02's, and my v5 rt11 distribution is on rx01's, with the wrong boot blocks.... -- @disclaimer(Any concepts or opinions above are entirely mine, not those of my employer, my GIGI, or my 11/34) beak is@>beak is not Anthony A. Datri @SysAdmin(Stepstone Corporation) stpstn!aad