[comp.org.decus] DECUS L&T Public Domain Tools Survey

ted@nieland.DAYTON.OH.US (Ted Nieland) (03/26/90)

Attached is the DECUS Languages & Tools (L&T) Special Interest Group (SIG) 
Public Domain Working Group Top 30 Tools tools survey ballot.  The L&T
PDWG is trying to find the most used/favorite non-comercial programs on
the various computer systems.  Please fill out a ballot and return it to
DECUS@NIELNAD.DAYTON.OH.US by April 20.  

Ted Nieland
DECUS L&T Public Domain Working Group Chair


		The Public Domain Top 30 Ballot

The Public Domain Working Group of the DECUS Languages and Tools SIG is
interested  in what public domain programs you find usefull on the various
computers you  work.  For each of the operating systems listed below, please
list your  favorite public domain programs.  Please MAIL your ballot by April
20, 1990 to  DECUS@NIELAND.DAYTON.OH.US (or uunet!dayvb!nieland!decus).

Thank you for you assistance, the results of this ballotting  will be given in
a session at the Spring 1990 DECUS Symposium in New Orleans, as well as
published in LEVERAGE, the L&T SIG Newsletter, posted on DECUServe, and posted 
on USENET.

Note, some of the previously nominated programs are already listed.  If that 
is a program you would have listed, just place an X by it.

Please note nor more than 10 programs for each operating system.

VMS			UNIX			MS-DOS
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TeX & Utilties		KERMIT			PKZIP
KERMIT			GNU EMACS		ARC
VERB			GNU CC			Micro EMACS
FILE			SEDT			SEDT 
FINGER			______________		KERMIT
SPELL			______________		______________
DECUS UUCP		______________		______________
GNU CC			______________		______________
GNU EMACS		______________		______________
______________		______________		______________
______________		______________		______________
______________		______________		______________
______________		______________		______________
______________		______________		______________
______________		______________		______________
______________		______________		______________
______________		______________		______________
______________		______________		______________
______________		______________		______________


RSX			RT/TSX			FINDER (Macintosh)
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DECUS C			KERMIT			STUFFIT
FINGER			______________		KERMIT
KERMIT 			______________		______________
______________		______________		______________
______________		______________		______________
______________		______________		______________
______________		______________		______________
______________		______________		______________
______________		______________		______________
______________		______________		______________
______________		______________		______________
______________		______________		______________
______________		______________		______________


Amiga DOS
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ZOO
WARP
ARP
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levin@bbn.com (Joel B Levin) (03/27/90)

In article <00373.AA00373@nieland.DAYTON.OH.US> ted@nieland.DAYTON.OH.US (Ted Nieland) writes:
|Attached is the DECUS Languages & Tools (L&T) Special Interest Group (SIG) 
|Public Domain Working Group Top 30 Tools tools survey ballot.  The L&T
|PDWG is trying to find the most used/favorite non-comercial programs on
|the various computer systems.  Please fill out a ballot and return it to
|DECUS@NIELNAD.DAYTON.OH.US by April 20.  
|
|Ted Nieland
....
|RSX			RT/TSX			FINDER (Macintosh)
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|DECUS C		KERMIT			STUFFIT
|FINGER			______________		KERMIT

About the Mac piece of this survey (I can't speak about any other part):

StuffIt! is NEITHER public domain nor free.  It is shareware.

Much other popular Mac software is NOT public domain, though it may
not have a shareware fee attached to it; authors wish to retain any
rights they are entitled to keep.  Some software, such as BinHex 4.0,
is truly public domain. (I don't know about Kermit.)

If you are really doing a survey of public domain software you must be
clear about what can be on this list.  As you have phrased your query,
I would never have put StuffIt! on my ballot.

	/JBL
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ted@nieland.DAYTON.OH.US (Ted Nieland) (03/30/90)

In Article <54091@bbn.COM>, levin@bbn.com (Joel B Levin) writes:

>About the Mac piece of this survey (I can't speak about any other part):
>                                                                        
>StuffIt! is NEITHER public domain nor free.  It is shareware.           
>                                                   
>Much other popular Mac software is NOT public domain, though it may   
>not have a shareware fee attached to it; authors wish to retain any   
>rights they are entitled to keep.  Some software, such as BinHex 4.0, 
>is truly public domain. (I don't know about Kermit.)
>
>If you are really doing a survey of public domain software you must be 
>clear about what can be on this list.  As you have phrased your query, 
>I would never have put StuffIt! on my ballot.


You didn't read the message very well:  Note the original text:

   Attached is the DECUS Languages & Tools (L&T) Special Interest Group (SIG)  
   Public Domain Working Group Top 30 Tools tools survey ballot.  The L&T      
   PDWG is trying to find the most used/favorite non-comercial programs on     
   the various computer systems.  


The key words here are NON-COMERCIAL PROGRAMS.  Stuff-it any many of the
other Mac programs fall into that category.

The Survey is called the Public Domain Survey for two reasons:  1) The DECUS 
Public Domain Working Group is sponsoring it, and 2) Public Domain is used
as a generic term to cover non-comercial software.

I don't agree with the use of "Public Domain" software, but the industry and
the users allow it to cover true public domain, freeware (copyrighted, but not 
public code), and shareware.  Most of the books, artcles and adds from places 
that have collections of shareware and the like call it all public domain.
I don't like it, but it is what people understand.


--
M. Edward (Ted) Nieland

Ted@NIELAND.DAYTON.OH.US     (aka  uunet!dayvb!nieland!ted)