[comp.org.decus] DECUS 4GL SIG

brantley@cerritos.edu (01/05/91)

For those persons interested in the growth of 4th Generation Languages at DEC
sites, you may want to check out the activity in the DECUS 4GL Special Interest
Group. 

The DECUS 4GL SIG is made up of Working Groups representing the various 4GL
products running on DEC platforms.  Each Working Group attempts to have
year-long contact with a vendor counterpart and the product developers.  The
following 4GL's are currently active and have Working Groups: UserBase, INGRES,
Oracle, PowerHouse, 1032, SYBASE, Rally, Focus, SmartStar, Datatrieve, and
Corevision.

To give you an idea what a Working Group does at the DECUS Symposia, here is
the PowerHouse Working Group Report from the Las Vegas Symposia:
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         PowerHouse Working Group Report - Las Vegas Symposia Fall 1990

             By Douglas Brantley, PowerHouse Working Group Chairman

         The PowerHouse Working Group presented scheduled sessions and COGNOS 
         developer clinics at the Las Vegas Symposia.  One of the many goals 
         for the Las Vegas Symposia was to increase the technical content of 
         the clinics.  This was accomplished by scheduling the clinics with 
         specific topics.  Sessions and clinics were very well attended. 

         Campground VAXstation 3100
         
         With the aid of COGNOS counterpart Robert Kinsman, Working Group 
         Counterpart, a VAXstation 3100 was installed in the 4GL SIG 
         Campground.  The VAXstation was equiped with the entire VAX/VMS 
         PowerHouse product mix available from COGNOS.  This was the first 
         symposia the Working Group had access to a VAX with PowerHouse 
         running on it in the campground. 
          
         PowerHouse Working Group News
          
         Developer clinics were advertised via the "PowerHouse Working Group 
         Las Vegas News".  The News was distributed at the Sunday night 
         reception, the 4GL Opening Session on Monday morning, the 4GL Users 
         Comparison Panel session, at all PowerHouse Working Group sessions 
         and in the 4GL SIG Campground.  The News also included information 
         about the VAXstation 3100 installed with PowerHouse located in the 
         Campground, the Working Group Meeting, and the 4GL comparison 
         sessions.  The SIG Newsletter pre-symposia article outlining Working 
         Group activities included a reference to the News and asked 
         interested parties to look for it at the Sunday night reception and 
         the scheduled sessions. 

         Scheduled Sessions

         The Working Group was allocated 3.5 hours of session time plus the 
         1.5 hour Working Group Meeting and the scheduled 1.5 hour clinic in 
         the campground.  The Working Group Meeting was increased to 1.5 hours 
         from 1 hour in New Orleans.  Expanding the allocated time proved to 
         be wise but still not enough time to complete the prepared agenda.  
         The meeting wrap-up continued in the hallway and moved to the lunch 
         tables. 
         
         Scheduled sessions included the following presentations:
         
                * "PowerHouse Novice", with Doug Brantley, Cerritos College;
         
                * "PowerHouse and VMS Mailboxes", with Ron Owen, Network 
                   Equipment Technologies;

                * "PowerHouse and External Subroutines" with Mark Nichols,
                   Standard Wire and Cable;

                * "Innovative Solutions Using PowerHouse" with Jim Long,
                   Golden Cheese Company.

         Developer Clinics

         Developer clinics in the campground lasted one to two hours 
         each, and totaled 8 hours.  Each clinic begin with a specific topic 
         and included extensive interaction with working group members.  
         Topics included the following: 

                 * "Challenges Of Distributed Computing" with Ron Zambonini,
                    Senior Vice President, Research and Development, COGNOS;

                 * "VMS Sections In PowerHouse", with Robert Kinsman, 
                    PowerHouse Working Group Vendor Counterpart, COGNOS;

                 * "The Transaction Processing Model In PowerHouse"
                    with Robert Kinsman;

                 * "PowerHouse V6.00 New User Interface Features" 
                    with Robert Kinsman;

                 * "PowerHouse And Interprocess Communications" 
                    with Nick Nefedow, COGNOS Developer;

                 * "Uncommon PowerHouse" with Nick Nefedow;
         
                 * "PowerHouse Wish List Review And Status Report", 
                    with Robert Kinsman.

         PowerHouse Working Group Meeting

         The Working Group meeting began with a prepared agenda.  Membership 
         participation was requested in all phases of the symposia planning 
         process.  Feedback was given on Las Vegas sessions and clinics.  The 
         overall response was positive with many suggestions for even better 
         sessions.  Nominations and elections of Working Group leadership 
         resulted in the following people being elected:

                * Working Group Chair - Doug Brantley;

                * Working Group Vice Chairs - Ron Owen and Steve Bond;

                * Associate Newsletter Editor - Mark Nichols;
         
         The Working Group Meeting Minutes will be the subject of a future 
         newsletter article.

         Planning For The Atlanta Symposia

         Extensive use was made of the phone line in the 4GL SIG Campground to 
         allow Working Group members to submit CFP's for Atlanta.  Ten CFP's 
         were submitted from the Campground using the discussions and requests 
         for session content from the Working Group Meeting. 

         4GL Comparison User Panel and 4GL Problem Comparison Sessions

         The Working Group participated in both cross-4GL comparison sessions.  
         The 4GL Problem Comparison PowerHouse solution was actually three 
         separate solutions.  The Working Group Chair asked three Working 
         Group members to prepare independent solutions.  Each solution was 
         compared during the session.  The three solutions were available on 
         hardcopy in the campground and two solutions were available for 
         demomonstration on the VAXstation 3100 in the campground provided by 
         COGNOS. 
         
         The 4GL Problem Comparison solutions will be the on the SIG 
         distribution tape and will also be the subject of future newsletter 
         articles.
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--  Douglas Brantley
    Cerritos College
    11110 Alondra Blvd
    Norwalk, CA 90650  213-860-2451 ext 219  InterNet:  BRANTLEY@CERRITOS.EDU