rs4u#@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Richard Siegel) (01/07/87)
Macintalk is a resource file that contains a device driver for speech. That's all it is.... You can get info on Macintalk from Apple, or if you have a friend who gets the Software Supplement, get it from him/her. Unfortunately, Macintalk seems to be rather unsupported, because it's been a year since the last version was released. For you, you can only get a male voice, English language, with variable speed, pitch, and inflection. Hope you find the answers you're looking for... --Rich
rick@uwmacc.UUCP (the absurdist) (01/08/87)
>You can get info on Macintalk from Apple, or if you have a friend who gets >the Software Supplement, get it from him/her. It also is bundled in with TML Pascal, and MegaMax C; I'm sure most other compiler manufacturers license it also. The typical license allows personal use but no commercial redistribution; thus, you should be able to copy it without worrying about legal hassles from Apple. (I.e., they seem to encourage as much copying of this and some other developer's tools as they can afford to without actually losing the copyright to them.) Big catch: "Macintalk must be in the same folder as your application." It looks like a system file. Put it in the system folder and your application will not talk. Some will warn you that "Macintalk" could not be found; others will simply crash. Put it in the application's folder. -- "I'll do it -- I've got the GUTS. I'm the PRESIDENT." "Maybe we should take that box away from him." "Why bother?" Rick Keir -- one floor up from the Oyster Tank -- UWisc - Madison {allegra, ihnp4, seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!rick
barmar@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU (Barry Margolin) (01/09/87)
In article <856@uwmacc.UUCP> rick@unix.macc.wisc.edu.UUCP (Rick Keir) writes: >Big catch: "Macintalk must be in the same folder as your application." >It looks like a system file. Put it in the system folder and your >application will not talk. Some will warn you that "Macintalk" could >not be found; others will simply crash. Put it in the application's >folder. I've never noticed this restriction. I admit that I only use a few speaking applications (Servant, VCS, ExceptionEdit) but they all work with MacinTalk in the system folder. And yes, I am using HFS. Since Macintalk is just a device driver, I can't imagine why it would be any different from any other device. -- Barry Margolin ARPA: barmar@MIT-Multics UUCP: ..!genrad!mit-eddie!barmar
jv0l#@andrew.cmu.edu (Justin Chris Vallon) (01/09/87)
ReSent-From: postman#@andrew.cmu.edu ReSent-To:nntp-xmit#@andrew.cmu.edu Return-path: <jv0l#@andrew.cmu.edu> To: outnews#ext.nn.comp.sys.mac@andrew.cmu.edu In article <4484@@mit-eddit.MIT.EDU>, barmar@@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU (Barry Margolin) writes: >In article <856@@uwmacc.UUCP> rick@@unix.macc.wisc.edu.UUCP (Rick Keir) writes: >>Big catch: "Macintalk must be in the same folder as your application." >>It looks like a system file. Put it in the system folder and your >>application will not talk. Some will warn you that "Macintalk" could >>not be found; others will simply crash. Put it in the application's >>folder. > >I've never noticed this restriction. I admit that I only use a few >speaking applications (Servant, VCS, ExceptionEdit) but they all work >with MacinTalk in the system folder. And yes, I am using HFS. > >Since Macintalk is just a device driver, I can't imagine why it would >be any different from any other device. Macintalk is not a device driver, it is a resource file which contains a device driver. This presents a problem to developers who did not think about the location of the Macintalk file. When the applications open the resource file to get the driver out of it, they should use the path :system folder:macintalk if under HFS to enable the application to open the file in the system folder. Problems arise if the application was written for MFS, since the path would be: macintalk because there are no subdirectories. Under HFS, non-prefixed files are prefixed to the subdirectory that the application was opened in (or the last subdirectory selected in an FSGetFile dialog). So, depending on whether the application was written for MFS or HFS, the application will get confused if placed into the other file system. -- Justin Vallon jv0l@andrew.cmu.edu
joel@gould9.UUCP (Joel West) (01/11/87)
The System Folder works great, at least under HFS.
For compatibility with MFS, HFS includes the "poor man's search path". If
the file isn't found in the current directory, the folder with Finder
and System will be searched.
This works fine for me for Macintalk, but ironically, seems to fail
sometimes with the Chooser.
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joel%gould9.uucp@NOSC.ARPAbrian@ut-sally.UUCP (Brian H. Powell) (01/14/87)
> When the applications open the > resource file to get the driver out of it, they should use the path > :system folder:macintalk > if under HFS to enable the application to open the file in the system folder. > Problems arise if the application was written for MFS, since the path would > be: > macintalk >... > Justin Vallon jv0l@andrew.cmu.edu Sorry this is behind the times, but I haven't caught up after Christmas. People should not get the idea that they should hard code the path ":System Folder:macintalk" into their programs. The blessed folder isn't necessarily called "System Folder". If you really want to look for a file in the blessed folder, see tech note 67, "Finding the 'Blessed Folder'". Seems to me, though, that you can just look for the file "Macintalk". (i.e., refnum := OpenResFile('MacinTalk');) I haven't tried it, though. IM says it calls the File Manager, which should certainly be able to handle HFS and the PMSP. This should work under both MFS and HFS. If it fails under HFS, you can always try to use the new OpenRFPerm function. If that doesn't work, then I'd resort to the method of hunting for the blessed folder. Brian H. Powell UUCP: {ihnp4,seismo,ctvax}!ut-sally!brian ARPA: brian@sally.UTEXAS.EDU _Work_ _Not Work_ Department of Computer Sciences P.O. Box 5899 Taylor Hall 2.124 Austin, TX 78763-5899 The University of Texas at Austin (512) 346-0835 Austin, TX 78712-1188 (512) 471-9536