jlc@atux01.UUCP (J. Collymore) (04/09/87)
I have run into a problem that is becoming a considerable hinderance in using, and enjoying, some of my software and my MAC SE (dual-floppy). Last thursday I got Wizardry by Sir Tech. I noticed when moving through the maze it would often respond with TWO clicks when I had only clicked on the mouse ONCE! This caused me to do a lot of back-tracking and generally diluted my enjoyment of the game. I switched to using the keyboard for movement and had NO double-click problems as I had with the mouse. I was getting a double-click ~20-25% of the time. I thought that it might be because of my installing the newest System files from the SE into the Wizardry backup disk, but upon putting the original older System Files back into my back-up I still had the same problem, so I don't believe it's with the System files. I did call Sir Tech yesterday and asked them if it could be a bug in the software and they said they'd look into it. Then, last night, I was using Professional Composer and trying to create a new score, and things started going crazy with erroneous double-clicking! Two notes were appearing when I had only cliked for one (forcing me to waste a LOT of time deleting notes). Whole measures would sometimes become highlighted when I had only meant to click on a single note! This was the first time I'd tried using Composer in a week, and it is the first time since I got Wizardry and began having this problem that it's shown up in Composer. I have not dropped, nor otherwise mishandled the mouse, but I'm really concerned with what's wrong. I don't like spending thousands of dollars on computer hardware and software and then not have it function properly when I've had it LESS than three weeks! Could someone out there please offer some suggestions on fixing this problem! Thanks. Jim Collymore
jlc@atux01.UUCP (J. Collymore) (04/09/87)
I should add that the double clicking problem has not shown up in Dark Castle, Write Now, or doing anything on the desk top. Jim Collymore
jordan@apple.UUCP (04/10/87)
A followup to Jim Collymore about Macintosh SE double clicking: A couple of things to check: 1. Check your control panel setting for double clicking. Try making the reponse time longer. 2. If double clicking continues, have the mouse looked at by a dealer. It might be defective. As a general note: The Macintosh SE had extensive testing for compatability (I know, I used to work in Software Quality Assurance) and the pattern of behaviour that you described is so bltant that it would have been spotted. Also, while we are trying for zero defects in manufacturing (we are around 99% I believe), defects still creep into things. That is why we place a warranty on our product. If it is trully defective, please take it to a dealer and have it replaced! -- Jordan Mattson UUCP: ucbvax!mtxinu!apple!jordan Apple Computer, Inc. CSNET: jordan@apple.CSNET Tools & Languages Product Management 20525 Mariani Avenue, MS 27S Cupertino, CA 95014 408-973-4601 "Joy is the serious business of heaven." C.S. Lewis
david@wiley.UUCP (04/12/87)
I also had a problem with extraneous double-clicking with the mouse on my SE. In fact, at one time I could hold the button right on the threshold of being down with the mouse in the menu bar and watch the menus flicker on and off. This problem has since gone away, but I thought it must be from dirty contacts in the button microswitch. Maybe some contact cleaner would help? By the way, other people have suggested changing the click speed setting in the control panel, but I don't see how this could help. When switches bounce, the extra button ups and downs are coming very close together -- much faster than anyone could normally double click. Unless I'm missing something and the debouncing software also uses the control panel setting to determine the time threshold for debouncing? -David -- --------------------------------------- David Hull TRW Inc. Redondo Beach, CA ...!{cit-vax,trwrb}!wiley!david