rs4u#@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Richard Siegel) (04/20/87)
In recent posts, I have discussed the nature and functionality
of a program called "Juggler", which currently is in beta test.
I will no longer discuss the features of this program, because I have received
a request from Apple not to do so; they stated that the functionality
may radically change, and in any case they wish to keep the
details quiet. I will respect this request, and I will not
publish any more details of the program.
I have received a number of requests for a copy of Juggler, which I must
not honor.
I sincerely regret any inconvenience I have caused to Apple or
to subscribers to this newsgroup.
(signed) Richard M. Siegel
Richard M. Siegel
Materials Characterization Instrumentation Section
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Disclaimer? I don't even KNOW 'er!dtw@f.gp.cs.cmu.edu (Duane Williams) (04/21/87)
Richard Siegel: "In recent posts, I have discussed the nature and functionality of a program called 'Juggler', which currently is in beta test. I will no longer discuss the features of this program, because I have received a request from Apple not to do so...." I guess we'll have to resort to reading about it in InfoWorld! There's an article on the front page of the April 20 issue entitled "Mac OS Said To Offer True Multitasking" and it's about Juggler. Duane Williams Arpanet: dtw@me.ri.cmu.edu
rs4u#@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Richard Siegel) (04/21/87)
I've received a number of comments that the Juggler info's also in InfoWorld. I would venture to say that someone ELSE violated their nondisclosure agreement, and the InfoWorld should know about such things and not publish. Whatever... --Rich
jww@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU (Joel West) (04/22/87)
In article <IUWu4Sy00WI8weQ0ZD@andrew.cmu.edu>, rs4u#@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Richard Siegel) writes: > I've received a number of comments that the Juggler info's also in InfoWorld. > > I would venture to say that someone ELSE violated > their nondisclosure agreement, and the InfoWorld should know > about such things and not publish. It's the role of a newspaper or magazine to publish what they know. I think Apple understands this, and is more upset at the people who leak to InfoWorld than InfoWorld itself. (Now if they told IW the straight skivvy under non-disclosure, as they have other magazines, that would be a different story.) As I'm sure you know by now, the rumors printed about unannounced products do not turn out to be 100% accurate. In fact, some companies (IBM and occasionally Apple) deliberately introduce inaccuracies into what they tell others to trace the source of the leak. -- Joel West {ucbvax,ihnp4}!sdcsvax!jww (ihnp4!gould9!joel once I fix news) jww@sdcsvax.ucsd.edu if you must
kleef@ark.UUCP (04/22/87)
In article <IUWu4Sy00WI8weQ0ZD@andrew.cmu.edu> rs4u#@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Richard Siegel) writes: > >I've received a number of comments that the Juggler info's also in InfoWorld. > >I would venture to say that someone ELSE violated >their nondisclosure agreement, and the InfoWorld should know >about such things and not publish. > >Whatever... > > --Rich Hey, what's this? I believe there's something like the Freedom of Press, at least in my country there is! If InfoWorld has all the ins and outs of this new phenomena, it's their _duty_ to publish and not their duty to think of Apple's non-disclosure clauses! Whoever 'slipped' the information is responsible for doing so and Apple is 'responsible' for sueing him/her providing the 'leak' is found. Don't run along with computer companies that just love the secrecy about their new products. InfoWorld has a responsibility towards her readers for publishing whatever information it comes across. BTW: On a press conference this morning at the European Mac Expo in Rotterdam, Holland, Larry Tessler (hope I spell that right :) gave some information about the Juggler (how's that for a non-disclosure violation :). He said Juggler is a sort of marriage between the Switcher and Servant. It uses parts of the Servant code. It has facilities to have certain processes (like datacommunication or printing) running in the background. He emphasized that applications can assign a _part_ of their program as a possible 'background' process. Juggler will put those processes into a 'real' multi-tasking environment. He stressed that it's not meant for _entire_ programs to run in the background. "Macintosh programs are very user-dependant. The user has to give information, work with the application. It's not like Unix, where you can put an entire process into the background. It wouldn't make much sense having an application waiting for user-input in the background." Paul Molenaar (freelance journalist - now you know why I'm sensitive about these subjects ;)
rick@uwmacc.UUCP (the absurdist) (04/23/87)
[ nondisclosure bug] >I would venture to say that someone ELSE violated >their nondisclosure agreement, and the InfoWorld should know >about such things and not publish. [ about Juggler from Apple.] Why? Infoworld didn't sign a nondisclosure agreement. The government doesn't have this sort of power over the press, why should a private corporation? (Before somebody claims the govt does, go read your ancient history textbook about the Pentagon Papers, and decide how successfully the govt actually is at controlling the press.) -- Rick Keir -- one floor up from the Oyster Tank -- UWisc - Madison {allegra, ihnp4, seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!rick